[Assam] DEMOCRACY HARMING INDIA: LYNGDOH

Sun Dec 25 09:45:57 EST 2005

Merry Christmas Rajen!

May Peace reign on earth!

And thus I start the morning of this auspicious day although it is 
gloomy outside in St. Louis with the forecast of a slight chance at 
snow.

To set things straight, I did not wish to put you in a spot by asking 
for a bearing on your position/s.

I raised the issue only because you picked out a bunch of names whose 
views you denigrate with while denying any intent to club them 
together, but raising the issue of a VOID in the 'middle'--thus 
implying the rest are extremists.

Under the circumstances reasonable people, not to mention extremists, 
could suspect you might be a one of the wise ones holding moderate 
views for countering the ills of 'democracy' as Lyngdoh sees them. 
Your dedication to democratic values, worn not only on your 
shirt-sleeves, but other positions in plain sight as well, could not 
be missed by any netter but the legally blind. It was therefore a 
surprise to see your endorsement of Lyngdoh's 'intellectual' outburst 
against 'democracy' in India.

I am sure I was not alone in wondering if we are speaking the same language.

But I shall not harass you any more. You explained things clearly as mud.

Take care,

c :-)

PS: BTW, what is Sumanta's sin? He is a nephew you know, son of a 
first cousin? You may not know this yet, but he is the newly 
appointed Editor of Dainik Asom. He joins yet another Mahanta of 
Namti, Manjit, another son of a first cousin, who also is the Editor 
of Asomiya Pratidin. You moderate and wise democratic guys in the 
middle are surrounded by this tribe of Pol- Pot wanna-be's and 
extremists  or what :-)?

At 12:46 PM -0600 12/24/05, Barua25 wrote:
>  >Philosophy is a fascinating subject. I don't denigrate it. But 
>right this instance we have little use for it in these discussions. 
>"Jwre >puri haat paalehi" -- time to do something wouldn't you think?
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>Philosophy, as well as history, are important in the fight in order 
>to know the enemy.
>Almost hundred years ago, Ambika Giri RaiChoudhury also told the 
>same thing: "Jwre puri haat paalehi, time to do something. Oxom 
>morile amiw morim" .
>In 79 Assam Gono Andwlon also Assamese said the same thing: "Jwre 
>puri haat paalehi--time to do something. Oxom morile amiw morim" .
>Today also Sumanta Chaliha and his 'jatiotabadis' are telling the 
>same thing: "Jwre puri haat paalehi-time to do something.Oxom morile 
>amiw morim"   
>Chandan Mahanta is also telling the same thing: "Jwre puri haat 
>paalehi--time to do something"
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>But unless you know what is the right thing to do, you will be 
>simply loosing 25 years this way, another 25 years that way.
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>Communism,  as proposed by the Mahantas,  is definitely not the solution.
>Hatred of India, as proposed by the Mahnats, is not the solution.
>Doom for India, as proposed by the Mahantas, is not the solution.
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>This I learnt from my lessons in philosophy and history.
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>Quicker you guys realize that the better.
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>I don't have any intention to loose another 25 years spending in 
>arguments on the wrong debate.
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>I have better things to do with people
>who donot hate India,
>who are against Communism,
>who are for freedom of the individual,
>who are against slogans
>who want to find the solution based on rational analysis.
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>RB
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>Chan Mahanta
>To: <mailto:barua25 at hotmail.com>Barua25 ; 
><mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
>Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 7:34 AM
>Subject: Re: [Assam] DEMOCRACY HARMING INDIA: LYNGDOH
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>I am not seeking your predictions here Rajen. Regardless of the 
>prescience of amateur or even professional seers, they are at best 
>idle speculations.
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>Positive change can come only with participation and involvement of 
>those who know better. In that, my question is where do you stand 
>with your contributions to the positive changes, which I gather even 
>if only indirectly, that you too would like to see in Assam?
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>And what would those changes be  that you would like to see? How do 
>you see a process for such changes put in place and moved forward?
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>Philosophy is a fascinating subject. I don't denigrate it. But right 
>this instance we have little use for it in these discussions. "Jwre 
>puri haat paalehi" -- time to do something wouldn't you think?
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>At 9:51 PM -0600 12/23/05, Barua25 wrote:
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>>In my opinion, the reason why there won't be any major change in 
>>India, in spite how pessimistic or optimistic one feel about India, 
>>is because of the age old characteristics of the Indians. Indians 
>>are too imaginative as opposed to being rational like the 
>>Chinese. We Indians think too much.
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>In fact, I could not find a single event, since the Gupta Empire, 
>that we Indians did as a nation in the political scene, as a 
>proactive action other than going by inertia letting things happen 
>as it may come, each doing Karma being in his/her own station, 
>letting the chips fall wherever they will.  Of course there had been 
>side actions of the Ahoms, the Rajputs and many others, but these 
>are foreigners to be absorbed into the black hole of Hinduism where 
>imagination take control of the real world and make the Indian blind 
>to see the real world. Even our struggle for independence was, in my 
>opinion,  a war fought out of inertia.
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>"In the Indian world there is, so to speak, no object that can be 
>regarded as real, and firmly defined - none that was not at its 
>first apprehension perverted by the imagination to the very opposite 
>of what it presents to an intelligent conscienousness...... Among 
>the Hindoos, on the contrary - instead of Unity - Diversity is the 
>fundamental characteristic." - Hegel.
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>----- Original Message -----
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>From: <mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>Chan Mahanta
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>To: <mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
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>Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 9:13 PM
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>Subject: Re: [Assam] DEMOCRACY HARMING INDIA: LYNGDOH
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>  >But before that there is no doubt  India is destined to play a 
>leading role as an advanced country in the not too distant >future.
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>**** I am sure that will please all those who are not in the 
>receiving end of what Lyngdoh rails about and are clamoring for a 
>seat at the table of world's 'powers'. But for the rest it is 'eat 
>cake', isn't it? Unfortunately the eat-cake crowd is growing, not 
>receding. Something tells me it will assert itself sooner than 
>later. And Assam will be in the thick of it if not in the forefront.
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>At 4:23 PM -0500 12/23/05, BBaruah at aol.com wrote:
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>>Chandan
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>I do not find anything to disagree with you.I can only hope that 
>Lyngdoh's thinking will inspire the coming generation to find a way 
>out of the present morass in our body politic. I do not think it 
>will happen in our lifetime. Politics is ever unpredictable. 
>Gorbachov did something unthinkable to Communism.According to some 
>researchers,  India is bound to disingegrate in course of time. But 
>before that there is no doubt  India is destined to play a leading 
>role as an advanced country in the not too distant future. I do not 
>think Assam is going to be a major player in it.
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>Regards
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>Bhuban
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