[Assam] Thanks to BBC for this crisp & even handed piece on the Indo-Assam conflict.
tridip2917 at yahoo.com
Wed Oct 26 18:55:10 EDT 2005
naah...how can i even think of something like that?? hehehehe....but it would be really 'fun' to see what happens if assam gets its 'independence'.....
.....india is not a country: its a collection of countries...better still as my friends from abroad say ..india is not even a sub-continent..its a pure continent in itself......well, therein lies the problem...everyone wants a piece of their own 'land'...in the same breadth assam too is a collection of different tribes ...whatever!!!...so what makes the ULFA leaders think that these other tribes would want to live under their dictatorship???? in the long run...which may not be that long actually, these leaders might end up ruling just a few acres of land...i doubt it though.
u know what??? not long ago a few self styled leaders wanted khalistan to be carved out of the present day punjab....punjab was drowned in blood......the violence there makes the violence in assam seems like childs play( for the loss of a better word and with due respect to the deads in these bloody orgy)...but look at todays punjab...its as peacefull as any other state can hope to be....and to use a cliche, the icing of the cake is the economic boom that punjab has seen.
its the richest state in india and for god's sake its doesn't have even half the resources that we have here in assam. to be affluent we dont need to be 'independent'! everything else is pure crap. in my opinion its not even a lame excuse anymore..it needs wheelchairs!
btw, the previous BBC report stated that around 10000 ppl have died in this 'struggle' /violence for 'independence' in the past 25 yrs. well assuming most of those killed are ULFA 'boys' ...say around 8000 in the past 15 yrs or so ( 15 yrs because the 'killings' started with OPS Bajrang)...so that makes it around 533-550 per year. now what's the cadre strength of ULFA. 3000?? 4000?? lets put it at 5000 ( they sure deserve some benefit of doubt if not sympathies..and i mean it) the entire cadre will be wiped out in the nxt 10 years at this rate...and here i am not taking into account the surrender in droves....chalo, they are allegedly stage managed...so we wont count them. but the facts glares at the face! new recruitments??? well, a full page advertisement in the leading dailies might work......but never be sure of that...times are changing are so are people. who wants bullets when he can have fast bucks ?? who wants to live in jungle when he can live in condos and penthouses...ok,
atleast a dignified life without worrying about from where the next bullet will come from.
heard that ULFA leaders enjoy a life of oppulence in neighbouring countries ( again it might be a plant by the RAW ;-D ) ..but the point is how many ULFA cadres belongs to the top level in the power pyramid....5?? 10?? 100?? even if its 500 what about the rest?? the foot soldiers.man i sure feel pity for those poor souls.
one more thing, who are the secong rung leaders in ULFA?? just about no one or is it that they arent/ werent groomed because the top leadership felt that the 'independence' assam dream will die with them??? tsk-tsk... that's called bad management!
about the 'dictatorship' issue when assam gains 'independence'....well, do the common people look such a fool?? this really tests the intelligence of the people......go take a hike man!
p.s :- btw mr. bartta bistar, why dont u post your mails in your real name instead of using aliases..maybe u could possibly give even ur rank, if u have one that is. atleast we'd know who you are. even if u are just a sympathiser come out in the open dude. if you can fight and dodge bullets without being afraid, no point in hiding behind nicks................
Rajib Das <rajibdas at yahoo.com> wrote:
And you thought you would get off that easy???? :-)
As per the only commuique I have read about governance
in Assam post the "Indo-Assam" conflict, it so seems
that there would be NO elections right after attaining
sovereignity. There would be dictatorship of the
liberators for sometime (number of years perhaps not
specifically specified) till the democratic
institutions become healthy. As also the fact that all
natural resources (including growth of tea) would be
owned by the state and the commanding heights of the
economy would be occupied by the state.
As if Emergency and Governor's Rule wasn't enough. As
was not Jawaharlal Nehru's bad socialist dreams that
killed opportunities for us all in the middle 40
--- tridip wrote:
> hi bartaa bistaar,
> thanks a lot for such a piece of news. though i have
> been living in assam for all these godforsaken years
> now i feel that i was getting diluted, biased and
> filterred news about "indo-assam conflict" .
> actually i didnt even believe that the indian
> government is willing to sit down for "talks" with
> our representatives ( its another matter that our
> 'representatives' have asked some other bunch of
> people to represent them) but after the BBC told me
> this,courtsey you, i think i'll have to believe it
> now. hard to imagine i wasn't 'actually' aware of
> what was going on around me all these
> years......damn those biased news... damn those
> filterred news.....just a query though...are the
> news fed and edited by the indian govt. to mislead
> ppl like us??? damn the indian govt. if its the
> truth and hail BBC......since you guys have ruled
> india for around 250 years u must be knowing what
> and how occupancy forces treats the occupants....so
> news from you should be as good as from the horses
> mouth. ( by
> the way, if i am not wrong, i remember you flooding
> my inbox with news-clippings and links about all
> kinds of news about ULFA, the indian govt., the
> PCG..PWG ( or whatever they are called). they are
> mostly from indian newspapers...so does that mean
> that those news were biased and filterred???? one
> can never be sure of those indian newspapers... who
> knows they might be on the govt. pay-roll??)
> now what if the indian government gives assam
> 'independence'?? good news, eh?? ok then will we
> have 'democratic' elections after we gain our
> 'independence'??? will our 'representatives fight
> those elections or will they keep aside some
> permanent posts for themselves??? if they decide to
> fight the elections and they lose it what next??
> will they form another faction and try to carve out
> another piece of land from assam???
> on a second thought, can there be any strategic
> partnership with india in the future..just like
> those NSCN (IM) guys want?? we rule our state...opps
> sorry nation...but if some other country tries to
> poke its nose into our affairs or tries to act as
> the aggressor, india shoud mobilise its defence
> forces fast and defend our borders. after all with
> india sharing our border from all the sides, it's
> their duty.
> a long mail u see. but i am little bit curious and
> the BBC doesnt seem to be of any help here and
> ofcourse, i can't trust those indian newspapers.
> tridip (and that's my real name)
> Bartta Bistar wrote:
> Indian PM holds Assam peace talks
> Ulfa has been fighting Indian forces for 26 years
> Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh is due to hold
> talks with representatives of a leading separatist
> group from the north-eastern state of Assam.
> An 11-member group representing the United
> Liberation Front of Assam (Ulfa) is in Delhi for
> talks aimed at ending nearly 25 years of insurgency.
> The representative group includes human rights
> activists, journalists and writers among others.
> More than 10,000 people have died in the rebel fight
> for independence.
> Ahead of the talks the peace delegation said it
> would raise the issue of Assam's sovereignty with
> the government.
> "Our job is to convince the government that for
> peace talks with Ulfa, they should at least agree to
> a discussion on the issue of Assam's sovereignty,"
> Lachit Bordoloi, a human rights activist and part of
> the delegation, told the BBC.
> "Ceasefire and release of Ulfa members are two more
> important issues," journalist Ajit Bhuyian said.
> Apart from the prime minister, India's national
> security advisor and the chief minister of Assam are
> expected to be present at the talks.
> "The presence of the prime minister in the talks is
> in itself an indication of the sincerity of the
> Indian government in solving the insurgency problem
> in Assam," Assam Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi told
> Operations ceased
> Last month, the Indian army called off a
> counter-insurgency operation against Ulfa rebels in
> Assam on the orders of the federal government.
> The move was aimed at facilitating the current peace
> Last year, Ulfa rejected an offer of talks because
> of a demand that the group give up violence ahead of
> any dialogue.
> Ulfa is one of the most powerful of nearly a dozen
> separatist groups fighting Indian security forces in
> the north-east.
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