[Assam] More on Hindu Science

Sun Sep 10 17:33:30 EDT 2006

Arabic/Urdu saying:

"Girte Hain Shaahe savaar maidane jang main
Woh kya khaakh girenge
Jo ghutno ke bal chalaa karte hain"

It is those who are brave and noble warriors who fall
from horseback in the battlefield -- how can those
fall at all -who crawl on their knees (infants).

Umesh
PS: an oft quoted saying by my father 

--- Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:

> A:
> 
> >My point is, call him naive, ignorant, or whatever!
> but why go after 
> >the whole >race ---
> 
> 
> *** Well,it was because of a long running pattern of
> such voodoo 
> 'science', that have been attributed to
> Hindu-knowledge or 
> scriptures, by really myths; which otherwise able,
> REAL scientists 
> and intellectuals have never been able to repudiate
> or debunk and 
> stand up to, due to the Hindu baggage they carry.
> 
> It smacks of the same kind of irrational
> voodoo-science that 
> Hindu-scientists and intellectuals try to promote,
> as in that 
> mercury-valve theory of keeping Xiboxahor pukhuri
> water from leaking 
> out, that one of our very own topnotch, IIT engineer
> presented here 
> in Assam Net :-).
> 
> c-da
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 7:15 PM -0500 9/9/06, Alpana B. Sarangapani
> wrote:
> >C'da:
> >
> >  >*** I don't know what you refer to, but if it
> was because his 
> >home-made telescope was not >powerful enough; and
> we try to equate 
> >that failure to voodoo-science of the Hindu-Phd Sri
> N. >Venky in 
> >this 21st century, who do you think will look bad
> Alpana :-)?
> >
> >My point is, call him naive, ignorant, or whatever!
> but why go after 
> >the whole race even when there is not much ground?
> :) :)
> >
> >I guess he goofed but had all the good intention
> and didn't want 
> >another catastrophe like the Tsunami of 2004 to
> happen without 
> >a warning.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
> >To: "Alpana B. Sarangapani"
> <absarangapani at hotmail.com>, assam at assamnet.org
> >Subject: RE: [Assam] More on Hindu Science
> >Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 09:45:20 -0500
> >
> >blockquote, dl, ul, ol, li
> {padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;}
> >O'Alpana:
> >
> >  >xabodhanor maar naai
> >
> >Ekebele thik kotha kola deiba :-). Pise' kwne'
> kihor babe' xaabodhan 
> >korise' xeitw olop bhabi saabo laage nohoy, ne ki
> kwa?
> >
> >
> >Imagine the same Hindu Astro-Physicist PhD warning
> about doomsday 
> >for the world
> >based on his Hindu-science calculations. And
> imagine India going 
> >into a panic and shutting things down for the
> moment, if not 
> >embarking on a binge of living it up the last few
> moments before 
> >'moha-proloy'. What would have ensued you think?
> >
> >Personally I was NOT a bit surprised by the govt's
> abject 
> >ineptitude. After all our montris and reps.,
> educated in 21st 
> >century desi institutions of learning are guided by
> astrologers on 
> >most important matters of state. And that includes,
> I have it from 
> >very reliable sources, Sonia-mata, not to mention
> the lesser
> >luminaries.
> >
> >
> >  >Galileo also misread Saturn. Was he a hindu?
> >
> >*** I don't know what you refer to, but if it was
> because his 
> >home-made telescope was not powerful enough; and we
> try to equate 
> >that failure to voodoo-science of the Hindu-Phd Sri
> N. Venky in this 
> >21st century, who do you think will look bad Alpana
> :-)?
> >
> >c-da
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >At 9:19 AM -0500 9/9/06, Alpana B. Sarangapani
> wrote:
> >
> >Hi C'da: This was really scary. Thank God (if I may
> say so here :)) 
> >that it did not happen.
> >
> >As it says here, the news should not have gone to
> the public but to 
> >the scientific community but precautionary methods
> were to be taken 
> >by the government, which they did, I suppose.
> >
> >Don't we also say - xabodhanor maar naai?
> >
> >Galileo also misread Saturn. Was he a hindu?
> >
> >
> >From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
> >To: assam at assamnet.org
> >Subject: [Assam] More on Hindu Science
> >Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 08:55:30 -0500
> >>  >Geologist apologises, but warning stands
> >>
> >>*** GEOLOGIST!
> >>
> >>  >a PhD in astro-geo physics,
> >>
> >>*** Ph D? ASTRO_GEOPHYSICS?
> >>
> >>Fools all!!
> >>
> >>cm
> >>
> >>
> >>Geologist apologises, but warning stands
> >>
> >>  GUWAHATI, Sept 8 - A Chennai-based geologist,
> whose "prediction"
> >>that an earthquake will hit Asom this morning
> triggered panic here,
> >>apologised to the people of the State but said the
> warning still
> >>stands for next three days, reports PTI. On being
> contacted by PTI in
> >
> >  >Chennai, N Venkatanathan, a PhD in astro-geo
> physics, expressed
> >>regret for the inconvenience caused, but added "I
> still hold my
> >>prediction till September 11".
> >>
> >>"My warning still stands for the next three days
> with the probability
> >  >of occurance 65 per cent. It may take two to
> three days for the quake
> >>to be triggered," the scientist said.
> >>
> >>"As soon as my prediction was made public, I
> immediately sent e-mails
> >>to the Assam Disaster Management Cell yesterday
> repeating that my
> >>prediction is not a public or official warning. No
> need for panic or
> >>evacuation of people," he said.
> >>
> >>On being told that the people here were upset with
> him for disrupting
> >>their normal life with his prediction of the quake
> at 8.21 am today,
> >>he said, "there is a possiblity of scientific
> error and people cannot
> >>squarely blame me. But all I can do is apologise
> to the people of
> >>Asom for the inconvenience caused to them."
> >>
> >>"My prediction was not for the public but only for
> the scientific
> >>community and some known press people. But some
> greedy person leaked
> >>it to the press," he said.
> >>
> >>Following media reports about the impending quake,
> Asom government
> >>had yesterday issued a general alert after an
> emergency meeting under
> >>the chairmanship of Chief Secretary S Kabilan,
> instructing the
> >>hospitals, health centres, medical colleges,
> nurses and doctors to
> >>remain in a state of preparedness to meet any
> eventuality.
> >>
> >>Though the government had stressed that there was
> no need to panic
> >>"as such predictions were not based on scientific
> reason", the
> >>meeting had issued a "general alert" to the army,
> police and security
> >>forces to be prepared.
> >>
> >>The government also opened a 24-hour control room
> and the district
> >>administration of Dibrugarh, where the epicentre
> of the quake was
> >
> >  >expected, was put on alert to adopt all
> precautionary means.
> >>
> >>Though the government did not declare closure of
> the schools but only
> >>asked them to adopt all precautions, children kept
> away from most
> >>schools and many private institutions remained
> closed.
> >>
> >>The earthquake prediction caused so much terror
> among the people that
> >>they had emergency survival kits prepared, and
> remained indoors since
> >>last evening.
> >>
> >>People spent a sleepless night together with their
> near and dear ones
> >>and those who slept awoke early.
> >>
> >>Those residing in highrise buildings were a
> particularly worried lot
> >>assembling at the ground floor before 8.21 am.
> >>
> >>Asked how he had arrived at his quake conclusion,
> Venkatanathan said,
> >>"to know the location and time of earthquakes the
> direction of the
> >>forces and when the earthquake triggering planets
> cross the earth in
> >>an eliptical path have to be calculated".
> >>
> >>Asserting there was "no failure" in his
> methodology, he said, "I have
> >>analysed 4000 earthquakes all over the world
> during the last 200
> >>years. Only study of the movements in the earth is
> not enough. Other
> >>planets' forces also have to calculated".
> >>
> >>Earthquakes were not caused whenever the planets
> were in a straight
> >>line but were caused if electromagnetic forces
> were induced, the
> >>geologist said.
> >>
> >>"The Sun, Mercury and Earth would be in a straight
> line today and the
> >>electro-magnetic forces caused by the to and fro
> motion of the
> >>planets which are moving in an elliptical path
> could trigger the
> >>quake," Venkatanathan, a member of the
> Britain-based International
> >>Society for Earthquake Predictions, said.
> >>
> >>Asked what would be his credibility if his
> prediction for Asom failed
> >>in the next three days, he said, "In any
> scientific prediction there
> >>is error limit."
> >>
> >>Denying the popular notion that quakes could not
> be predicted, he
> >>claimed it was possible if astro-physics was
> combined with geology.
> >>
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