[Assam] Army help to Sattras -AT Letter

[Ram Sarangapani]

C'da,

 >*** HOW does the army get involved in this you think? What process would
>the Army use to identify and judge if the encroachers are illegal B'deshis,
or >something else? The ol' lungi/lifting test?

The lungi-lift test may work:)

ID-ing illegals at such Xotras shouldn't be such a problem.  You have got
yourself too immersed with this "Can I see some ID?" in the Ozarks:)
No such thing there. All the CRP/Army has to do is yell: "Bangladesi ho?"
Also, the xotriya-gurus ( make that mahantas) could help the army ID-ing the
illegals :):)


 . Only I am not quite >sure what it is, yet . But I am working  on it :-).

>B: By holding it up to prove how benevolent the army is, and how bad its
>critics are, you too demonstrate a certain political bent

I thought I spoke of both the good and the bad side of the army, and also it
is just a machine..

> Only I am not quite >sure what it is, yet . But I am working  on it :-).

Heheh!, C'da - I totally apolitical (even in this country's politics). I am,
what one would call "baseless" and superficial. The way I operate is - I
just take an issue, and then decide for myself which bandwagon I should hop
into (usually I choose the one that others have jumped off from). Don't you
think thats a lot of fun? But I am glad I am being at least considered:):)

--Ram



On 9/15/06, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
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> > If the government remains silent the Army should take action to evict
> the encroachers from >the Sattras of Asom in the greater interest of
> protecting and preserving the great ancient >heritage of the Vaishnavite
> religion--
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> *** HOW does the army get involved in this you think? What process would
> the Army use to identify and judge if the encroachers are illegal B'deshis,
> or something else? The ol' lungi/lifting test?
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> I realize that some of the encroachers at least, if not all, could be
> B'deshis. But WHAT would the process of identifying and evicting them be?
> What TOOLS would the Army gods use in a country flying the flags of a
> 'liberal democracy' to determine that, which is not available to civilian
> authorities? Of course I could be guilty of discounting the Army's
> omniscience in this matter--but you know how I am :-)?
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> B: By holding it up to prove how benevolent the army is, and how bad its
> critics are, you too demonstrate a certain political bent. Only I am not
> quite sure what it is, yet . But I am working  on it :-).
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> Well, well, C'da,
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> I was just pointing out the surprise that someone (like this letter writer
> to the AT) was being grateful to no less the army. That too in Assam - where
> the army dosen't seem to have a good image.
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> >Do you see this as some "good-stuff", gift of a benevolent army :-)?
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> Well, I just don't think this stuff as good or bad. The army does what its
> commanders/netas tell it to do - that is its function. It is doing what it
> is supposed to do. In this case, I think it is a welcome change. The army
> also does similar things like helping or saving people caught in floods -
> many a time in Assam.
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> I am also aware that that it can go berserk for no apparent reason - and
> innocent people get killed - we are all aware of that - time and again.
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> Do we have to be grateful - no, not at all
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> But it would be nice to at least acknowledge that sometimes the army does
> is beneficial, just like we feel it is right to condemn it when it
> does bad things - a sense of even-handedness, if you will.
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> >Where is the vaunted desi-demokrasy to protect the landholdings >of
> xotriya-gurus ( make that mahantas), obviously something they >got from the
> gods as divine gifts?
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> One would think, that is why the army was called in. Don't you think?
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> I know C'da - sometimes its hard to swallow a story like this and when
> that happens, we often look for some hidden agenda or look into the recesses
> for cracks in the country's democracy. :) :)
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> Some view the army as an evil force, while others know it is just a
> machinery in the hands of netas either in Delhi or the Kharkhowas in the
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> On 9/15/06,* Chan Mahanta* <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
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> What appals me is the desi-blather about that 'liberal democracy' in
> India, spouting from newspaper editorials, supposedly political scientists'
> ( make that voo-doo political scientist) columns, 'screwity' ( you heard it
> hear first :-)) analysts and the like, not to mention clueless luminaries of
> the kharkhowa establishment and at the same time imploring the 'army' to
> preserve heir properties from B'deshi immigrants.
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> Well, is there a rule of law in this Indian colony or not? Where is the
> vaunted desi-demokrasy to protect the landholdings of xotriya-gurus ( make
> that mahantas), obviously something they got from the gods as divine gifts?
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> of which the Xotradhikars and their families lived, some quite well ( others
> barely), as a reward for, no doubt, looking after their 'xisyos'(
> disciples') spiritual redemption ( heh-heh:-)), regardless of the
> performance on their duties; still a divine right required to be upheld and
> safeguarded by the state, more than say an ordinary mortals' property
> rights? And if the mere-mortals do not have any such privilege, cannot
> invoke the army-gods' protection, how do the xottros do, in this
> dysfunctional desi-sorkar?
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> At 2:12 PM -0500 9/15/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
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> The army helping Sattras? This is one news I didn't expect, given the
> often bad stuff we keep hearing about it.
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>  Maybe times are a changin.
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> *Army help to Sattras
> * Sir,- The recent appeal of the Asom Sattra Mahasabha to the Army to
> remove the encroachers from the Sattras of Asom is quite timely and as such
> a rightful step. It is unfortunate that sites of the Sattras being the
> sacred centres of Vaishnavite religion and culture have now been occupied
> illegally by some people.
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> The Kobaikata Sattra in Nagaon and the Patekibori Sattra in Morigaon
> district are almost occupied and surrounded by doubtful foreigners but the
> government has been the passive on-looker without any step to evict the
> encroachers. If the government remains silent the Army should take action to
> evict the encroachers from the Sattras of Asom in the greater interest of
> protecting and preserving the great ancient heritage of the Vaishnavite
> religion propounded by Mahapurush Sri Sri Sankardeva and Madhabdeva. - Yours
> etc., MD. IDRISH ALI, Baligaon, Morigaon.
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