[Assam] AT: Who runs ULFA????????Seeking answers???
umesh sharma
jaipurschool at yahoo.com
Tue Sep 26 14:03:55 EDT 2006
Good points!!
Umesh
--- Momy Saikia <saikia_m at hotmail.com> wrote:
> People,
>
> I am intrigued by the differences in your opinions.
>
> Besides why are some people so critical about the
> NRIs?
> Like I mentioned in my previous post that people
> could have both personal
> and communal goals in life. However, the trend
> should be to be
> self-sufficient yourself before you help others and
> yourselves at large. All
> the famous people you have heard of or read about
> made their state or
> country proud in the process of personal development
> and can you blame them
> for that?
>
> I cant notice any level of appreciation for the
> NRIs from Assam. However,
> it surprises me that these same people are pro NRIs
> from other states
> because they outnumber the Assamese NRIs and are
> making significant
> contributions to their native land.
>
> I sympathize with those who have lost the sight of
> good deeds in others. Why
> cant you guys in Assam contribute towards the
> state? Atleast, we the NRIs
> have been able to lead our lives in the right
> direction and the future has
> only the best to offer to us. You will lead
> yourselves to graves with
> resentment against the govt. and the world. Change
> your attitude people.
> Its high time that you to change your perspective.
>
> I am sorry to be honest, but unless each of you do
> something about your
> situation, not even the creator himself can; help
> forget the govt, the NRIs
> or the rest of the world.
>
> I have spoken to people in Assam who have just a
> degree or less and yet want
> to be an executive with a 9-5 desk job in a AC
> room
.Be realistic
If you
> are educated enough to be able to secure a
> significant post either in the
> govt or pvt sector, you can make some changes if not
> many
If each of you who
> claim to have the right ideas but deprived of
> opportunities to implement
> them, get into the crucial decision making process
> of the state, you can
> make a difference
.
>
> But with all the whining and cribbing, you are
> wasting time and brain
.
>
> Momy
>
>
>
> >From: umesh sharma <jaipurschool at yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: umesh.sh05 at post.harvard.edu
> >To: Barua25 <barua25 at hotmail.com>,
> assam at assamnet.org
> >Subject: Re: [Assam] AT: Who runs
> ULFA????????Seeking answers???
> >Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 08:46:26 +0100 (BST)
> >
> >Rajen-da,
> >
> >Good points!
> >
> >Umesh
> >
> >--- Barua25 <barua25 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Umesh:
> > > I have just thrown a number of adults who might
> have
> > > immigrated during last 30 years. It does not
> matter
> > > whether we are 300 or even 3000. It is still a
> drop
> > > in the bucket of 20 million. I was just trying
> to
> > > awake our people who seem to be biased with a
> wrong
> > > mind set that brain drain is bad. Actually brain
> > > drain helps a country like India where we have
> > > abundant of engineers and technocrats. What we
> lack
> > > is managerial people. People who are coming here
> are
> > > not the managers. Immigrants always help
> themselves
> > > and help the country back monetarily. Like Momy
> > > said, we need to change our attitude. Corruption
> is
> > > an attitude. An engineer going back from here
> cannot
> > > help. The greatest advantage the Punjabis and
> the
> > > Hyderabdis have against the Kharkhowas is that
> > > Assamese lack confidence. We even donot have the
> > > courage to ask an MLA a question "Why we don't
> have
> > > electricity why the roads are bad. This
> confidence
> > > will come only when enough people will get out
> our
> > > Kharkhowa state and work outside like a guy of
> > > Kerela, UP, Rajasthan, Gujrat or Punjab. We the
> > > Kharkhowas even donot know how much export we
> can
> > > made of Bamboo products to Delhi and Mumbai and
> USA
> > > which will help the villagers. Not that we donot
> > > need a Gas Cracker but a Gas Cracker does not
> > > necessarily help our villagers.
> > > Rajen Barua
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: umesh sharma
> > > To: Barua25 ; assam at assamnet.org
> > > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 10:11 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Assam] AT: Who runs
> > > ULFA????????Seeking answers???
> > >
> > >
> > > Rajen-da,
> > >
> > > good point. I thought there were more Assamese
> > > abroad (incl their progeny) 300 is too small a
> > > number . I think there were over 3,000 Sikhs
> from
> > > Punjab in only Canada's Vancouver area 100 years
> > > ago. Do you think migration in large numbers has
> > > helped Punjabis? On the other hand, Hyderabadis
> have
> > > really made a connection between Silicon Valley
> and
> > > Hyderabad -by setting up tech projects which are
> run
> > > out of theri home town. Infosys Chief Narayan
> Murthy
> > > had suggested something similar for Assam - in
> his
> > > recent visit at AEC -about setting up cal
> centers
> > > initially. Maybe NRAs can help in that.
> > >
> > > Umesh Sharma
> > > 5121 Lackawanna ST
> > > College Park, MD 20740 USA
> > >
> > > Current temp. address: 5649 Yalta Place ,
> > > Vancouver, Canada
> > >
> > > 1-202-215-4328 [Cell Phone]
> > > Canada # (607) 221-9433
> > >
> > > Ed.M. - International Education Policy
> > > Harvard Graduate School of Education,
> > > Harvard University,
> > > Class of 2005
> > >
> > > weblog: http://jaipurschool.bihu.in/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Barua25 <barua25 at hotmail.com>
> > > To: muktikam phukan <muktikamp at yahoo.co.in>;
> > > assam at assamnet.org
> > > Sent: Monday, 25 September, 2006 8:01:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Assam] AT: Who runs
> > > ULFA????????Seeking answers???
> > >
> > >
> > > >Problem lies in our educated people migrating
> to
> > > USA and other greener pastures after getting
> full
> > > advantage of the >govt provided educational
> > > infrastructure (whatever little is available).
> > >
> > > Damn these educated Assamese people that
> migrated
> > > to USA seeking greener pastures. We could have
> saved
> > > Assam had not these selfish 300 or so educated
> > > people (out of 20 million population of Assam)
> > > migrated to USA. Damn!
> > > What we 20 million minus 300 peopel can do in
> > > Assam? Nothing.
> > > Otherwise, we had everything planned.
> > > Damn!
> > > Iake koy manuhe pate, isore bhange.
> > > I say : hobo diok kokaidew!
> > >
> > > Rajen Barua, Houston
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: muktikam phukan
> > > To: assam at assamnet.org
> > > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 6:41 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Assam] AT: Who runs
> > > ULFA????????Seeking answers???
> > >
> > >
> > > Problem lies in our educated people
> migrating
> > > to USA and other greener pastures after getting
> full
> > > advantage of the govt provided educational
> > > infrastructure (whatever little is available).
> > > Why can't these individuals stay back and
> try
> > > to change the situation?
> > > Left behind are those people who actually
> has
> > > to shout slogans once in a while to get a
> refinery,
> > > a tea auction centre, an IIT et al.
> > > And ASOMIYA's in Higher echeleons of Natun
> > > Dilli --- for them it seems they are actually
> from
> > > North India or Bengal. Only concern seems to be
> to
> > > jerk off that asomiya climbing below me in the
> > > ladder.
> > > Muktikam Phukan
> > > Momy Saikia <saikia_m at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Dipankar,
> > >
> > > Do you really think that someone could
> be
> > > deprived of what they deserve due
> > > to prevailing discrimination. However, I
> can
> > > appreciate your point of view.
> > >
> > > With all due respect to everyone who
> support
> > > the cause of ULFA or are in the
> > > notion that central govt is biased
> against
> > > the north east, do you really
> > > think establishing your own rights by
> > > "snatching" it from either friends or
> > > enemies is the right action.........
> > >
> > > Its down to every individual at the end
> of
> > > the day; govt can only support.
> > > Playing the blame game is temporary and
> can
> > > never last long and yet the
> > > repercussions are severe and permanent.
> > >
> > > I wasnt brought up in Assam and have
> rarely
> > > set foot on my land, so my
> > > opinion might not be significant.
> However,
> > > blaming the govt. for the
> > > complete situation of the state is not
> > > justified. If people of Assam are so
> > > bothered with the face of Assams roads,
> the
> > > least they could contribute is
> > > to construct the road and drains in the
> > > periphery of their new homes. If
> > > each household would care to spend the
> extra
> > > price of laying the road
> > > outside their dream house, everyone
> would
> > > have better lanes to walk
> > > through
> > >
> > > With regards to your concern with no
> major
> > > industries being set up in Assam
> > > since independence, why wait for the
> govt to
> > > take the initiative. Be it a
> > > personal or govts initiative to
> establish
> > > an industry, the results will
> > > always be favourable for the people of
> the
> > > place in terms of more employment
> > > opportunities and globalization of the
> > > state
> > >
> > > I hope that my personal opinion will not
> be
> > > misconstrued as my support for
> > > the Indian govt (I am an engineer by
> > > profession and not a politician so I am
> > > not radicalized)
I believe in everyman
> for
> > > himself. Besides evidences from
> > > history prove that revolutions and
> changes
> > > happens due to the initiative of
> > > one/more people together, not due to any
> > > govts standalone decision.
> > >
> > > So we need to plan some course of action
> > > instead of passing the buck....If
> > > our generation was to be trusted with
> the
> > > politics of the nation, we would
> > > have nothing to complain about....
> > >
> > > Momy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: d_mbaruah at oilindia.in (Dipankar
> Malla
> > > Baruah (Well Logging))
> > > >Reply-To: "D M Baruah"
> > > >To: "Momy Saikia"
> > > > , ,
> > > >Subject: Re: [Assam] AT: Who runs
> > > ULFA????????Seeking answers???
> > > >Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 14:51:47 +0530
> > > >
> > > >ULFA problem is the result of large
> scale
> > > un-employment and common
> > > >sentiment amongst the people of Assam
> that
> > > the central government is not
> > > >doing enough for the development of
> Assam.
> > > The two major industries of
> > > >Assam, Tea and Oil industry was started
> by
> > > Britishers. People of Assam had
> > > >to do agitations for setting up
> refineries
> > > for oil produced in Assam. After
> > > >independance, there is not a single
> major
> > > industry set up in Assam. Assam
> > > >is a major producer of tea, oil and gas
> in
> > > India. But Assam is still one of
> > > >the poorest state. If you look at the
> > > conditions of roads, primary health
> > > >and educational infrastructure in
> Assam, it
> > > is amonngst the worst in India.
> > > >Most of the people of Assam had the
> access
> > > to moblile phones only recently.
> > > > Most of the time people dont have
> > > electricity here. Big things come to
> > > >assam only when people agitate.
> > > >
> > > >These are a few things that one can
> realise
> > > while staying in Assam. It is
> > > >easy to talk of peace and prosperity
> > > staying in a foreign land. Taking the
> > > >gun or going ULFA way is certainly not
> the
> > > right way to solve the problems
> > > >of the state. But we should realise
> that
> > > every problem has got certain
> > > >reason. I dont support the ULFA
> millitants
> > > when they kill people or collect
> > > >ransoms. But I still feel that Central
> > > Government should stop doing step
> > > >motherly treatment to Assam. Let more
> > > industries set up here, let more
> > > >youth have jobs, let people be happy
> with
> > > the basic ammenities of life,
> > > >ULFA will not have enough people
> joining
> > > them and the problem will solve by
> > > >itself.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message ----- From:
> "Momy
> > > Saikia"
> > > >To: ;
> > > >Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:38
> PM
> > > >Subject: Re: [Assam] AT: Who runs
> > > ULFA????????Seeking answers???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>Can't understand why some people
> choose
> > > violence over peace????????? Do
> > > >>you
> > > >>support the cause of ULFA militants?
> Do
> > > you think Assam would be better
> > > >>place if separated from the central
> > > government or is it a thought of the
> > > >>juveniles who have lost directions in
> > > life??????
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>From: umesh sharma
> > > >>>Reply-To: umesh.sh05 at post.harvard.edu
> > > >>>To: assam at assamnet.org
> > > >>>Subject: Re: [Assam] AT: Who runs
> ULFA?
> > > >>>Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 03:28:23 +0100
> > > (BST)
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Some talk about peace some indulge
> in
> > > war....
> > > >>> Umesh
> > > >>>Guwahati, Sunday, September 24, 2006
> > > >>>---------------------------------
> > > >>>
> > > >>> TE manager shot dead by ULFA
> > > >>> >From Our Bureau
> > > >>> DIBRUGARH, Sept 23 - The manager of
> > > Hollonghabi tea estate near Digboi,
> > > >>>Haren Das was shot dead from close
> range
> > > by suspected ULFA militants
> > > >>>outside his bungalow late this
> evening.
> > > He was rushed to the AOD hospital
> > > >>>at Digboi, where he was declared dead
> on
> > > arrival.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Another report says that suspected
> ULFA
> > > militants caused a terror this
> > > >>>afternoon at Bordumsa Bazar near
> Pengeri,
> > > after they opened fire into the
> > > >>>air. No one was hurt in that
> incident.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -------------------------------
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Guwahati, Sunday, September 24, 2006
> > > >>>STATE
> > > >>>---------------------------------
> > > >>> Policeman killed in ULFA shootout
> > > >>> >From Our Bureau
> > > >>> DIBRUGARH, Sept 23 - A police
> sergeant
> > > of the Borboruah police station
> > > >>>here, Ranjit Sonowal was gunned down
> by
> > > ULFA militants at Jokai on Friday
> > > >>>morning. He died on the spot. A team
> of
> > > policemen had gone to the house
> > > >>>of
> > > >>>one Deba Dutta to seek him out when
> the
> > > incident occurred. Dutta earlier
> > > >>>delivered an extortion letter to the
> > > management of the Sessa tea estate,
> > > >>>belonging to the Goodricke Group,
> > > demanding Rs 30 lakh.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>The police received a tip-off that a
> > > group of 15 ULFA militants have
> > > >>>sneaked into Jokai on the previous
> night,
> > > and went prepared, accordingly.
> > > >>>Sonowal, who was armed with a Sten
> > > carbine, was at the rear door of
> > > >>>Dutta's
> > > >>>house when he was shot at by three
> > > fleeing militants, all armed to the
> > > >>>teeth. He died on the spot. The
> police
> > > have arrested Deba Dutta for
> > > >>>harbouring militants and acting as
> their
> > > courier. Dutta's wife and a
> > > >>>teenaged daughter have also been
> > > arrested. Dutta was earlier with the
> > > >>>CRPF,
> > > >>>and was dismissed from service for
> > > misconduct.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Umesh Sharma
> > > >>>5121 Lackawanna ST
> > > >>>College Park, MD 20740 USA
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Current temp. address: 5649 Yalta
> Place ,
> > > Vancouver, Canada
> > > >>>
> > > >>>1-202-215-4328 [Cell Phone]
> > > >>>Canada # (607) 221-9433
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Ed.M. - International Education
> Policy
> > > >>>Harvard Graduate School of Education,
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> >
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> Vancouver, Canada
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Current temp. address: 5649 Yalta Place , Vancouver, Canada
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