[Assam] Fwd: RE: A Request for Analysis

Sun Apr 1 15:51:40 EDT 2007

O'Deka:

You need to go look into your spam control panel. 
Somehow you must have banned either my e-mail 
address or my ISP number or some such thing. But 
I ain't any internet expert. You are the 
electronic wizzes. Hope you will figure it out 
soon and let me in to your tube :-).

O'm

At 12:44 PM -0700 4/1/07, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
>For some reason, I am not receiving emails from 
>Chandan Mahanta and Dr. Tilok Hatimuriya via 
>Assamnet. I am receiving Ramgopal's and many 
>others'. Hmmm. How can Assamnet be so selective?
>I checked my blocked address list. Nope, my 
>friend Chandan Mahanta's and Dr. Hatimuriya's 
>names are not there. Gotike, Urohi gosor wr kot?
>Dilip
>
>Ram Sarangapani <assamrs at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  >Simple! You saw how Ram-kai  re-configured MRG
>>in the image of  an ULFA spokesperson when you
>>mentioned her as a go-between or intermediary,
>>didn' t you?
>
>C'da
>Thank you for forwarding Tilok's analysis.
>
>Poor Tilok - I think he is fast losing his 
>gentle touch (that we used to admire so much). I 
>'recommend' (like Kirip C)  that Tilok go take a 
>refresher course in Shrinkology. But its not 
>just the touch, its the analysis - its just way 
>off.
>
>About MRG, (we talke about her a few years ago too). My stance hasn't changed.
>MRG, obviously is a great, literary person, won 
>the highest award of the land, wel-respected 
>etc. That is wonderful, and everyone of us 
>respect and admire for that talent.
>
>Now, about whether she is actually an 
>intermediary or a spokesperson for ULFA is not 
>open to debate so much today. In the early days, 
>we were all excited as we thought here was 
>someone who could help solve the problem and 
>"mediate".
>
>She looked more like representing ULFA's views 
>an bringing those to the table. So what does one 
>call a person who does that?
>No, it is NOT wrong for someone to do that - but 
>it is wrong to portray her as an 
>intermediary when she wasn't acting as one.
>
>There have been instances when MRG was a day 
>late and dollar short when condemning ULFA 
>attrocities, but really yelling blue murder (and 
>demanding justice) when the Army goes haywire.
>
>IMHO, a true go-between would exercise a great 
>degree of nonbiasness. She would have been 
>expected to condemn both attrocities in equal 
>measure.
>
>  >Sri Humiliated, like Ram-kai, is extremely 
>distraught by MRG's >efforts which they perceive 
>as ULFA-partisan-like. Ram Kai can't
>>care less about saying it like he sees it.
>
>This is where Tilok goes off on a tangent. I am 
>not distraught by MRGs efforts whether they are 
>partisan or not. If she is - she is. There is NO 
>problem with that.
>BUT if she is, then obviously she biased, so why 
>pretend and show her in different light.
>
>And I thought I was saying it like it is: She is 
>NOT an intermediary as her friends would have us 
>believe.
>And I also said (and feel strongly too) that 
>despite this, no one has the right to recommend 
>prison for her role. You can't shut people up 
>because they may hold opinions that differ.
>The GOI, and its representatives have the duty 
>to uphold a higher moral and ethical code.
>
>For all her ULFA biases, she has rendered a huge 
>public service. It is difficult to get people to 
>do that, and at least for that we ought to be 
>thankful. But let us say NOT say with straight 
>face that she is unbiased.
>
>
>
>
>On 4/1/07, Chan Mahanta 
><<mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>cmahanta at charter.net> 
>wrote:
>
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>>X-Originating-Email: [<mailto:tilok75 at hotmail.com> tilok75 at hotmail.com]
>>From: "Tilok Hatimuria" <<mailto:tilok75 at hotmail.com>tilok75 at hotmail.com>
>>To: <mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>cmahanta at charter.net
>>Cc: <mailto:tilok75 at hotmail.com>tilok75 at hotmail.com
>>Bcc:
>>Subject: RE: A Request for Analysis
>>Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2007 14:56:55 +0000
>>
>>O' So-kai:
>>
>>Moi gom pai aasw ki hoise.
>  >
>>But we should not say things like 'losing one's
>>marbles' or , 'not-dhila hwa' , or 'seraa-boliya
>>hwa' etc. These phrases aggravate the condition
>>of the victim and are liable to make them worse.
>>When that happens we all lose. We as mental
>>health professionals don't use these euphamisms
>>any more.
>>
>>This is what is going on:
>>
>>Some people do not know how to deal with being
>>told they are wrong about something. It is a
>>condition widely prevalent amongst third-world
>>immigrants who, rightly or wrongly, with reason
>>or without, are used to being treated with
>>reverence or deference; particularly when they
>>return to their native lands carrying with them
>>an aura of achievements or wearing a halo of
>>holiness. If such pointing out of being fallible
>>happens publicly,  they take that as a deeply
>>insulting humiliation. Those who do have a sense
>>of humility, and know that they could be wrong
>>about some things while being right about many,
>>are , mercifully immune to the condition. But
>>such immunity is not widespread. Now those who
>>suffer from such public humiliation, real or
>>imagined, often do a slow burn; looking for
>>opportunities for pay-back. Not that it works.
>>Such pay-back, even if possible, produces only a
>>temporary relief; like Preparation H does for
>>you-know-what where thje sun-don't shine?
>>
>>Anyway, this need for payback, depending upon
>>the degree of intensity, would drive the
>>afflicted to find ways, excuses,  for attacks.
>>Sometimes they go entirely overboard on the
>>slightest of pretexts resulting in what you, in
>>your amateurish words  described as blowing up
>>on one's face ( another fighting-phrase we don't
>>use).
>>
>>This is what happened here. Sri Humiliated
>>jumped, obviously very prematurely, on what he
>>thought was an opportunity to teach you a
>>lesson, unfortunately aided and abeted by his
>>'sources' back home, who were oblivious of what
>>was going on. Sri Humiliated, farther poorly
>>served by his own feelings of infallibility,
>>assumed, very wrongly, that since his 'sources'
>>had not heard of what was brewing to be a major
>>news item, must indeed be something you
>>fabricated. So being driven by that indomitable
>>drive for pay-back, he attacked with a vengeance
>>and charged you with fabricating what he thought
>>was a bald-faced rumor.
>>
>>Good for you did not make it up. For if you had,
>>he would have gotten you by your
>>you-know-what's.  Now that the matter has hit
>>the fan and is all over the place; Sri
>>Humiliated all of a sudden finds himself in an
>>even worse position.
>
>
>
>>  A person with an ordinary amount of humility,
>>by now, would have admitted that he made a
>>mistake. He could have blamed it on his
>>'sources' like George Bush did to the CIA, and
>>walked out. People would have forgotten about it.
>>
>>But nooo! Sri Humiliated's infallibility
>>complex, once again, came back to hurt him.
>>Instead of quitting, he continues to put out
>>feeble, laughable excuses and demands. That
>>unfortunately defines the condition of such
>>individuals. We , as responsible members of
>>society  have no recourse but to treat them with
>>a little compassion and not drive them to that
>>proverbial point of no return.
>>
>>Why does Sri Humiliated continue to assert your
>>'fabrication' was designed to 'hurt Mamoni'?
>>Does he not know that you are a vocal supporter
>>of her efforts to forge a negotiated peace in
>>Assam?
>>
>>This is even more complex. People like Shri
>>Humiliated are no ordinary, simple people. If
>>they were they wouldn't find themselves in the
>>condition they face to begin with. He needed an
>>excuse to get on your case. So he dressed up as
>>a Mamoni Defender and charged you with an
>>attempt to hurt her.
>>
>>How?
>>
>>Simple! You saw how Ram-kai  re-configured MRG
>>in the image of  an ULFA spokesperson when you
>>mentioned her as a go-between or intermediary,
>>didn' t you? Sri Humiliated, like Ram-kai, is
>>extremely distraught by MRG's efforts which they
>>perceive as ULFA-partisan-like. Ram Kai can't
>>care less about saying it like he sees it. But
>>Sri Humiliated likes to fancy himself as a
>>kindred soul of MRGs, a fellow scholar of Hindu
>  >scriptures  and a fatherly protector of her
>>political reputation, which he does not want
>>sullied by what he perceives as an association
>>with ULFA or  them Assam independence seekers.
>
>
>
>>
>>But does MRG care?
>
>
>>That is immaterial. What is material is what Sri
>>Humiliated fancies himself as.
>
>
>
>
>>
>>Thus his  die-hard adhereance to the assertion
>>that you circulated what he saw as a rumor then,
>>even though it is obviously a fact now, just to
>>paint MRG as sympathetic to Assam sovereignty
>>aspirations and/or ULFA-partisan-like; as Sri
>>Kirip-kaiti  did. That in Sri Humiliated's book
>>is nothing less than sacrilegious, if not
>>treasonous, to his India-centric and
>>Hinduttwa-baadi predilections. No wonder then,
>>he is forced, no doubt with great pain, to
>>accept  Kirip-kai's laughably lame excuses and
>>denials. Something, under other
>>circumstanceswould have attacked, with or
>>without basis, due to Kirip-kai's Congressi
>>affiliations.
>>
>>Such are the conditions of the afflicted living
>>with that slow-burning need for pay-back,
>>revenge! They would go to sleep with the enemy
>>to exact their pound of flesh!
>
>
>
>>
>>I hope that 'splains things for you So-kai. Let
>>me know if you need anything else. I would love
>>to help Sri Humiliated, but I am not licensed to
>>practice in Ma, only in Mo. But I can refer him
>>to some good menta-health professionals in
>>Boston, should he seek it. The place is crawling
>>with shrinkologists.
>>
>>Take care and good wishes from the freshly
>>greening heights of the High Ozarks at Dog Patch.
>
>
>
>>Xewa lobo.
>>
>>Iti
>>
>>Tilok.
>>
>>(Dr.Tilok Hatimuria, FLAS), DogPatch, High Ozarks, USA
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: Chan Mahanta < <mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>cmahanta at charter.net>
>>>To: <mailto:tilok75 at hotmail.com>tilok75 at hotmail.com
>>>CC: <mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
>>>Subject: A Request for Analysis
>>>Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 08:22:06 -0500
>>>
>>>O' Tilok:
>>>
>>>Bhalne'? Moi aasw aaru nomori-jiyai. Dekhisai
>>>nohoy huzoor mohaxoye omukak 'rumor-monger'
>>>xaaji, raizor aagot dwxarwp kori, mwr-pa
>>>koifiyot bisarisee!
>>>
>>>Can you tell us what is going on here?
>>>
>>>Looks to me like a psychiatric case. Why do you think this self-appointed
>>>Ombudsman of Assamnet  keeps asserting that I 
>>>fabricated the 'rumor' to 'hurt
>>>Mamoni'? Do you think he lost his marbles? Or
>>>is there something deeper we are missing?
>>>
>>>Morom loba.
>>>
>>>Iti
>>>
>>>Twmar So-kai
>>>
>>>
>>
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