[Assam] Anyone in North Dakota State Univ; IITfounder's business plans OK?

Thu Apr 5 20:21:36 EDT 2007

It seems she is getting two third schol from her school, so might be okay even if she comes back to India. People tell me salary in Indian metros is hitting the roof -even by US standards.

  However, the FAQ of the AIT is hilarious. The director (and IIT founder)  seems to play cupid (matchmaker also) with his 3rd class (in studies in BA in India) neice and Jaipur topper guy.
  It seems he did not learn much about management - ofcourse IIT does not have an MIT Sloan School of Management! 

   He only talks about computer science while pushing unsuspecting teenagers into big bad world of global business with no work visas and no job security.

  Umesh
  PS: Incidently I also used to speak to my students at Jaipur School about my attending in Jan 1992 a wedding of a MIT chemical engg graduate at her home in India - Indian style with a German fellow student. I also met her MIT batchmates. I was then studying at Delhi Univ and she was the aunt (distant) of my close friend and schoolmate Puneet from my hometown. 

  Her parents subsequently shifted to Haridwar from Delhi - she was their only child.

umesh sharma <jaipurschool at yahoo.com> wrote:
    Anyone in North Dakota or aware of itts ND State Univ?

  One of my former students from India is studying bachelors business program (BBA) at Ansal Inst. of Technology and has already applied for the US -leg of the program and taking a bank loan for that (maybe by mortgaging her family home) . Is it a wise decision given that US work visas dry up within two weeks now - bachelor's degree holders from US are not in master's quota. 

  Though she might be the forst female student from Jaipur School to go abroad for higher studies. I just advised her against it - NDSU didn't seem a good enough place for a business degree. I said even Harvard MBAs from India might find it difficult to get work visas now in US

  Is a tech degree and a business degree from NDSU just the same ?

  Pl. advise.

  Umesh

  The Ansal Institute offers answers to frequently asked questions about US Education, Registration, and Services of the College. Should you have any further questions, please consult our Contact Us page.
  http://www.aitgurgaon.org/Miscelleanous/FAQ.html
  1) Why US education and degree?
  It is well known that the cream of the country (IITians) mostly aspire to acquire foreign degrees. It is understandable because opportunity to study abroad and work there (under legally tenable academic training) changes the work culture and mental attitude. Also opens up career opportunities in the global market.
  It is also well known that the preference is to acquire higher US Degrees from accredited US Universities because of vastness of the country, liberal laws and regulations and far better opportunities to grow and learn. Practically the entire population consists of immigrants and so discrimination is minimal, in fact, negligible so far as Indians are concerned.
  US being the only super power, practically the entire world looks towards it for leadership. Also the education system is pragmatic and broad based. For an average Indian student who is motivated and works regularly, success is assured.

  2)What is accreditation? 
  In the United States, accreditation is used to assure quality in educational institutions and programs. Accreditation is a voluntary, non-governmental process of peer review. It requires an educational institution or program to meet certain, defined standards or criteria. Accreditation is sometimes confused with certification. In general, institutions and programs are accredited, and individuals are certified. 
  There are two types of accreditation -- institutional and specialized. Institutional accreditors, such as those referred to as "regional" accreditors, examine the college or university as a whole educational institution. Specialized accreditors evaluate specific educational programs. Professional accreditors, such as those for medicine, law, architecture and engineering, fall into this category. 
  Accreditation serves to notify: Parents and prospective students that a program has met minimum standards; Faculty, Deans, administrators, program's strengths and weaknesses and of ways to improve the program; Employers that graduates are prepared to begin professional practice; Taxpayers that their funds are spent well; and The public that graduates are aware of public health and safety considerations. 
  3) Will going to an average University like CCU/TSU/NDSU/CU fulfil the student's objectives and dreams? 
  The Director of Ansal Institute received his Ph.D. from an US University like CCU/TSU/NDSU/CU in 1962 and was working in NASA when IIT Delhi was set up. While in the US, he got appointments from IIT Delhi, Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, Bombay & Regional Engg. College, Allahabad. He joined IIT Delhi and was, essentially, a founding Faculty member of IIT Delhi. He got recognition and highest academic honours in the academic world here and nobody ever asked him to-date the ranking or the recognition by Indian Academic Boards of the US University which awarded him the Ph.D. degree.
  While at the IIT, large number of students used to come for guidance telling him that their aspiration is to go to the US for higher studies and so wanted to know the names of 10 top ranking US Universities where they would apply. The Director's advice was to select 5 top Universities (CU would be a shade lower) and 5 average Universities like CCU/TSU/NDSU and go to the University which awards the applicant the admission and Fellowship. Right from the very beginning, large number of IITians would prepare for GRE & TOEFL to get ready to go to the US for higher studies after acquiring the IIT degree. One example clearly bears this out-in one of the convocations, Rajiv Gandhi, the then PM of the country was the chief guest at IIT and when the name of the 20 or so top rankers was called for medals to be awarded by the Prime Minister, practically none appeared on the rostrum. The reason was all of them had gone to the US for higher studies.
  The Director's eldest daughter wanted to be an Engineer from IIT but she did not succeed in entering IIT for engineering courses. So after getting M.Sc. in Mathematics in India, she got admission at Catholic University of America (comparable to CCU/TSU/NDSU) for M.S. in Computer Technology, the discipline to which she could never enter in India. Today, she is a Senior Manager in a reputed US company in Detroit drawing about US$ 1,00,000/- p.a.
  It will not be out of place to cite the example of another close relation of the Director who got 3rd division in B.A. (Hons.) in Mathematics from Delhi University. After this, she gave up the studies because all doors for professional growth in India were closed for her. At that stage the Director played an advisory role and facilitated her admission to one of the accredited US Universities. She had, no doubt, to attend some remedial courses in the first semester and in each course she got an A with the result that she was formally admitted to MS program in the next semester with assistantship. Right from day 1, she got a job (20 hours/week) with her Advisor to assist him in his office work, which required know-how in PC related work. Today, she is a Senior Software Engineer in Home Depot at Atlanta, a reputed Manufacturing Company with network spread over the entire country - her annual salary ~ US$ 1,00,000 (approx.).
  On the other hand, her future spouse from Jaipur, topped the State Medical Entrance Test in Rajasthan and was featured in Rajasthan Patrika in Jaipur. However, he told his father (who was A SENIOR executive in Birla's Ball Bearing company in Jaipur) that he aspires to settle down in the US and so wishes to enter Engineering profession. Accordingly, he competed for Engineering Entrance Test as well and was admitted to the Delhi Institute of Technology (now NSIT) for the B.Tech in Computer Science. After completing the 4-year degree course from NSIT, he applied to the same University (where the Director's relation was studying) for M.S. course in Computer Science. So the brightest students from India also do not shun such an average University in the US if an opportunity arises. Today, the boy in question is a Senior Software Engineer (like the girl) in Delta Airlines, both drawing almost similar salaries ~US$1,00,000 per annum. 

  4) Are the foreign collaborating universities accredited?
  All the Universities we have collaborated with are accredited State Government Universities.
  Coastal Carolina University (CCU), an accredited university located at Conway in South Carolina, USA. 

·The Business Administration Programs of CCU are nationally accredited by the Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business (AACSB).
·CCU's Computer Science (Theoretical Option) program is recognised by Accreditation Board for Engineering & Technology (ABET). 
  Tarleton State University (TSU), an accredited University and a member of the internationally reputed Texas A & M University System located at Stephenville and Killeen in Texas, USA.

·The Business Administration Programs of TSU are nationally accredited by the Association of Collegiate Business Schools & Programs. TSU's Computer Information Systems Department was selected by the International Data Processing Management Association for offering the outstanding four-year program in North America.
  Clemson University (CU),an accredited University located at Clemson in South Carolina. . 
  · Time Magazine designated Clemson as the "Public College of the Year 2001". 
  · Kiplinger Magazine 2003 "Top Public Universities" Clemson on 20th rank.
  · Princeton Review 2003 "Most Wired Campuses" Clemson on 34th rank.
  · US News and World Report 2006 " Top Public Universities" Clemson on 35th rank.
  · The Engineering Program of CU is nationally accredited by the Accreditation Board for Engineering & Technology (ABET).
  North Dakota State University (NDSU), an accredited University located at Fargo, North Dakota, USA.
  ·The Business Administration Program of NDSU is nationally accredited by the Association to Advance Collegiate School of Business
  ·The Computer Science and Engineering programs are recognised by the nationally reputed Accreditation Board for Engineering and Technology (ABET).
  5) Are the degrees from these collaborating US universities recognised in India? 
  B.S./MBA/M.S./Ph.D. Degrees from accredited US Universities are recognised all over the world. For recognition of US degrees, Association of Indian Universities (AIU) accords the status of equivalence. The degrees awarded by the accredited US universities for the full time programs offered on the US Campus, are generally equated by the AIU with the corresponding professional degrees of Indian Universities.
  In the Indian context, the overseas accredited universities DO NOT fall under the purview of AICTE or UGC. It should be noted that BS (Bachelor of Science) degree in the US is earned after 4 year of studies applicable to students who have completed 10+2 years of education.
  6) Do all Bachelor's degree programs in US have 4-year duration?
  Yes, all the Bachelor's degrees in the US are of 4 years. In India the Bachelor's degrees are of 3 years duration, except the Engineering and B.Tech degrees which are of 4 years duration. 
  7) What is transfer of credits scheme? What is twinning program? 
  As per the MOU with the US Universities the credits earned for the courses done at Ansal Institute are transferred to the US Universities, as the coursework at Ansal Institute, essentially, corresponds to the syllabi followed in the US Universities. Twinning program - The degree program is called the twinning program because the program is partly conducted at one institute and the other part in the other institution. Only successful candidates are eligible for transfer to the concerned US University. 
  8) Can an average student succeed in the International Program?
  An average student can succeed in the International Program if he is focused, regular, determined and dedicated. 
  9) Are TOEFL and SAT required for transfer to US for the BS program after completing Ansal Institute’s program?

As per our MOU, our students are exempted from SAT and TOEFL (except for NDSU) requirements in the US, which are, otherwise, normally required for admission to the BS degree programs in the US. 
  10)Is GMAT/GRE compulsory for transfer?
  GRE / GMAT score is required before transfer of credits to the concerned US University for admission to MS / MBA degree program of TSU / NDSU.
  11) Is scholarship available to all transfer students?
  All the students (admitted to TSU/CCU/NDSU programs) who successfully complete the prescribed coursework at Ansal Institute will be eligible for scholarship for their last 2- 3 semesters of quantum of prescribed coursework in the US. Under formal agreement between Ansal Institute and TSU/CCU/NDSU, scholarships are available and are paid by the concerned US University. Ansal Institute has instituted its own scholarship scheme for each semester the student studies at Ansal Institute (details can be obtained from the office).
  12) What is coop program? 
  McMaster, Clemson and NDSU have provisions of coop program under which students study one semester and work in the alternate semester thereby not only getting hands on experience but also earning while earning between US$ 2000 - 3000 p.m. during the industrial attachment. Under the Coop program the US industries recruit the students for internship. 
  13) What if minimum CGPA score is not attained at Ansal Institute?
  If the minimum CGPA score is not attained at Ansal Institute, the student cannot be considered for transfer to the concerned US University notwithstanding the option to repeat some courses to improve CGPA. However, many of our students in this category have been able to get credits of the courses attended at Ansal Institute transferred to good many Universities in Australia and Canada. In fact, we have reached formal understanding with some of these Universities like Plymouth University (UK), Deakin University (Australia). We are also in the process of reaching a formal understanding with University of New Brunswick-Canada, University of Western Australia-Australia, San Jose State University-USA, Saint Mary's University-Canada, North Carolina State University-USA to smoothen the process of transfer. 
  14) How is the past batches from Ansal Institute have performed in the US and other foreign universities?

1. During the last three and a half years about 150 students have taken transfer to reputed foreign universities in the US, Australia, Canada and UK and bringing laurels to our Institute. 
  2. One of our alumni was on the 2003-04 edition of "Who's Who Among Students in American Universities and Colleges" and a group of students from Ansal Institute have recently won 3rd rank in an international Mathematics Jeopardy Contest organized by Mathematics Association of America, in Austin Peay State University, Clarksville Tennesse. 
  3. Our students in the US have won 25 President's honor awards and 35 Dean's honor awards for their excellent academic performance, and have done us proud.
4. Our students, on completing BS degree, have got opportunities to do MS/Ph.D from such leading universities like Johns Hopkins, University of Illinois, Vanderbilt University, Keck Graduate Institute, Clemson University, Australian National University, Asian Institute of Technology and Embry Riddle University. 
  5. Our students who have taken transfer to US Universities for MBA and MS are also doing exceedingly well. Seventy five percent (in the first batch at TSU) have got assistantship enabling them to take care of their almost entire expenses of Masters degree. Similar record is applicable to the second batch that have taken transfer to the US in August 2005.
  6. In the last fall semester, 4 of our students were on President's honors list and 10 on Dean's honor list at Tarleton State University whereas at Embry Riddle Aeronautical University, two are on President's List and on Dean's list during MS degree program. 
  7. Our students have recently developed software as part of their project work, which is being implemented by DTC as Bus Route Finder System. 
  8. Anurag Mishra, a student of Ansal Institute was felicitated by Microsoft MD and featured in Hindustan Times (4th Feb 2005) for winning a PC gaming competition organised by Microsoft, in which more than ten thousand gamers from all India participated. 
  9. Another student, Anirudh, was among the winners of World Cyber Gaming competition (Inter Zonal) held recently in Pune.
  15) Why study at Ansal Institute? 
  Infrastructure 
  ·Located in Gurgaon - the hub of MNCs, with world-class facilities on 14 acre sprawling campus in the foot-hills of Aravalli Range.
·Modern Lecture Rooms with latest teaching aids which include Over-head and LCD Projectors, Laptops, Multimedia Kits and Audio-Visual Equipment.
·Fully air-conditioned and networked Library, well-stocked with books and journals.
·State-of-the-art Computer systems from IBM, HP, Wipro, Sun Microsystems in labs, networked to provide a wide range of licensed software.
·High-speed reliable Internet connectivity, round-the-clock, through dedicated Leased Line and ISDN.
·The entire campus of the institute is connected through Local Area Network (LAN).
·Laboratories (Electrical and Electronics, Physics, Chemistry and Biology) and related infrastructure comparable to international standards.
·Fully furnished International Standard Hostel separately for boys and girls on campus with Internet connectivity.
·Students' recreation facilities, lockers and modern cafeteria and Nestle coffee shop enhance camps life
·Extracurricular activities such as the annual techno-cultural festival and annual sports meet are regular features.
·24-Hour power backup.
·Bookstore and Banking facility inside the campus.
  Academic Programs Highlights
  ·Leadership of an ex-IIT professor.
·Teaching & evaluation on IIT pattern.
·Offering UG & Masters' level programs, which are among the most economical academic Programs leading to degrees from accredited US Universities.
·Exemption from SAT for the Bachelors' Degree Program and TOEFL for both Bachelors' and Masters' Degrees (except NDSU).
·Scholarship / Assistantship / Industrial Cooperative Program - arrangements formalized with the concerned US Universities for successful students.
·The courses taught at Ansal Institute are the mirror image of the ones taught in the counterpart US Universities.
·Students complete 3 years of study for a 4-year UG degree at Ansal Institute in 2 years by studying additional 2 summer terms at Ansal Institute thereby saving valuable 1 year.
·Eminently qualified faculty approved by the concerned US Universities, many of them having vast research & teaching experience of North American Education system.
  General 
  ·Online Formatted feedback from the students obtained on regular basis for continual improvement in delivery of course work.
·Student base of 700 approx. in just six years of the Institute's inception.
·Student's clubs and societies to cater to the diverse interests of students.
  16) Is it possible to get transfer from US/UK/Australian Universities to study at Ansal Institute?
  Yes, it is possible to transfer from US/UK/Australian Universities to Ansal Institute subject to approval from the concerned University. One such student from University of Massachusetts, Boston, USA got his credits transferred to Ansal Institute; after completing Ansal Institute's prescribed coursework, the student has been transferred to CCU from where he completed BS degree in Computer Science and is now doing MS in Software Engineering with scholarship from Embry Riddle University. One student and two are in the pipeline from McGill University to come and do some courses in the summer here at Ansal Institute. A student from North Dakota State University is currently studying at Ansal Institute and about half a dozen are expected to join in Fall 2006.
  17) Is there a hostel facility at Ansal Institute and in collaborating US universities? 
  Yes, there is a well furnished modern On-Campus hostel separate for boys and girls at Ansal Institute as well as in collaborating US Universities. Hostel rooms at Ansal Institute are twin - sharing with attached bathroom, Good food - all at very reasonable charges.
  18) Does the institute provide training and placement assistance to students? 
  The Institute has very active Training and Placement Cell with a highly qualified Training and Placement Officer with an excellent record of providing training and placement opportunities since the inception of the Institute. 
  19) Is it possible to get some loan for the studies? 
  Bank loan from Oriental Bank of Commerce (OBC) with minimal formalities under formal agreement between Ansal Institute and OBC is possible. Other banks like SBI and UBI also provide the loan to our students.
  20) Since education from accredited US Universities is the costliest in the world, how studying at Ansal Institute reduces the cost and makes it affordable? 
  Ansal Institute is offering the most economical programs for the middle and lower middle class students. We are offering a unique program which means that the student will study partly here at Ansal Institute and the second part in the US. Every successful student eligible for transfer to CCU/TSU/NDSU is given scholarship by the concerned US University to study there in the final year and we have internships (Clemson) which will further reduce the costs. This benefit is in addition to saving of one valuable year by doing 2 summer terms and merit scholarships here at Ansal Institute.
  21) How qualified, reputed and experienced faculty is employed to teach at Ansal Institute? 
  We have highly qualified Faculty, duly approved by the concerned US Universities, many of whom having valuable teaching and research experience and exposure to North-American Education System. Many of our faculty hold Ph.D / M. Tech from the IITs. We also give appropriate incentives better than what the Government offers to attract best possible faculty to teach our courses. Our faculty is highly motivated and are ever helpful to the students. Besides, some distinguished faculty from Delhi University, JawaharLal Nehru University, Jamia Millia Islamia University and other reputed Institutes also participate in our teaching program.
  22) Does faculty from the US Universities participate in teaching at Ansal Institute? 
  Yes, eminent faculty members frequently participate in teaching from our counterparts in the US, e.g Prof. Subhash Saxena, Emeritus Distinguished Professor, Coastal Carolina Univ., USA who has been regularly teaching our courses. 
  23) Is there a transport facility available to the students from a neighbouring area such as Delhi? 
  We have a very reliable transport facility (fleet of 7 buses) available from major areas of Delhi and Gurgaon.
  24) What is the scope of Internship? 
  i) CCU: Myrtle Beach which is close to the Coastal is the 3rd largest tourist destination in the US after Disney World and Las Vegas. During the tourist season there is a huge demand in the tourism, marketing and hotel industries. Students from CCU get ample opportunity to gain hands on experience.
ii) NDSU: Microsoft Business Solutions and Alien Technology are located close to the NDSU premises in Fargo where students get ample opportunity for hands on experience as a full time paid intern. Microsoft Business Solutions has one of the largest establishments in Fargo outside Seattle. Besides, senior officials from Microsoft Business Solutions, General Motors, Cargill and John Deere are on the Advisory Counsel set up for NDSU-Ansal Institute project dealing with cooperative academic program which indeed is a significant development from the point of view of adapting the courses to meet the needs of the relevant industries.
iii) TSU: Computer Information Systems is considered an outstanding program in Information Systems in North America. Its graduates have been finding placements in Companies like Dell Computers, Walmart, J.C. Penney etc.
  25) What are the prospects of Internship/practical experience in industry/academics in US and other foreign countries?
  After completion of the Degree Programme(s) in the US, the US Law, currently in force, allows students to work for an additional 9-18 months as a part of academic practical training. There is a paid Internship of Rs. 2.5 lacs (approx.) in RTM Program. Under BS Engineering degree program (Clemson's) we have the coop program under which the student is allowed to work in relevant industries in the alternate semesters. Students can earn between US$ 2000 - 3000/- (approx.) per month during full time internship under coop arrangement.
  26) After studying in the Ansal Institute’s International Programme what if a student does not want to (or is not able to) go to US?
  If the student does not want to go to US he can get himself transferred to Australia, Canada or UK as some of our students in earlier batches have done. Our quality of delivery of education and syllabi are designed in such a way that it is adaptable to the US, Australian, Canadian and UK education Systems. Our students are also awarded Ansal Institute's Advanced Diploma / Diploma / PG Diploma as the case may be after successfully completing Ansal Institute's coursework. 
  27)Is the internet facility available to the students free of charge?
  As a part of infrastructure facilities, the institute provides 

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Ed.M. - International Education Policy
Harvard Graduate School of Education,
Harvard University,
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