[Assam] Why ULFA?

Thu Feb 1 16:35:53 EST 2007

In the long term we are all dead --as John Maynard Keynes the celebrated British economist once said. Try short term focus.

  You misunderstood the question and gave a wrong (philosophical) answer which went at a tangent.

  Analogy to our Q & A:

  Ques; Why did Daisy the cow eat the neighbor's rose bush? Why did it happen? 

  Answer:  Cows eat grass and bushes. Daisy is a cow so it ate the bush. There are different types of cows. All eat grass and plants. Holstein cows give 10 gallons of milk per day. Jersey cows give 12 gallons of milk. Elephants eat a lot of plant matter as well.

  You see it did not answer the question about Daisy the cow and her mistake.

  Umesh

Rajen & Ajanta Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com> wrote:
      Umesh:
  Take 25 years. These are lifetime questions.
  Nobody is in hurry.
  Rajenda

    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: umesh sharma 
  To: Rajen & Ajanta Barua ; assam at assamnet.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [Assam] Why ULFA?

  Rajen-da,

  Unlike last year now I am working full time so do not the time to go into all the nuances of what everyone writes -incl pre-historic examples etc . I may get more time on weekend (Sunday) so will reply then.

  Have agreat day.

  Umesh

Rajen & Ajanta Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com> wrote:
      Umesh:
  I think you are making such a big confusion of our communication by not responding straight, that I think we need to chronicle our sayings. 
  1) Originally you asked the question, why ULFA is killing people, and also suggested that they were interested to have a separate nation which they want to rule.You also asked for other opinion.
  2) In reply I showed the possible reasons why basically people kill people bringing examples from ancient history to modern days killing. I also stated that from these reasons, you may make your own judgment why ULFA is killing.
  3) Instead of choosing a reason, you asked me the question,  "so is it ok?"  
  I donot know why you asked me that question. Probably you flotade the question to get a certain type of response. M ay be I put you in a very uncomfortable zone with my examples.
  4) I replied that your question implies that other killings cited by me are ok according to you. Otherwise what your question "so it is ok" would mean? I also told that I am against any type of killing, and asked your opinion. 
  5) Instead of answering straight, you are changing the question 180 degrees and saying that "punishing the culprit is good" (whatever that means). I think you are trying to justify killing if it is for punishing a culprit.  This however does not explain why people kill innocent people. 
  Anyhow, before we confuse the readers, please clarify it that is what you mean. If you say yes, my question would be which of the killings you would say OK. Do you also support ULFA's killing, because as an extension of your logic (killing to punish a culprit is good), ULFA may justify their killing.

  Would appreciate if you would answer straight.
  Or ask me question if you are in doubt.
  Rajen-da  
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: umesh sharma 
  To: Rajen & Ajanta Barua ; assam at assamnet.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [Assam] Why ULFA?

  Rajen-da,

  without reference to anything you said I say that punishing culptrits (whoever they may be) is good. I squash cockroaches everyday in my kitchen and used to swat mosquitoes in India when they bit me.

  Umesh
  PS: I just wondered why u raised all these historical issues when discussing a current problem of ULFA. Why not raise the issue of original sin by Adam and Eve - if you feel like it? or of Thou Shalt not kill - Ten Commandments

"Barua, Rajen" <Rajen.Barua at amec.com> wrote:
      Umesh:
  I may be weak in English, but did not know that I am that weak.
  You asked why ULFA was killing.
  I showed you how killings are going on in this world from ancient times till now in front of your own eyes and why, and from that I asked you to make your guess why ULFA is killing.
  Nowhere did I say any of these these killings are OK.
  In fact when you asked back, "so is it ok?', one would presume that you think those other examples of killings are ok.
  I never said any of those killings are OK.
  I simply said that the world we live in a a 'killing field'.
  In fact I am against any killing, I am against this 'killing field'. 
  I yet donot know if you are against all killings or you think some killings are good like Indian army killing 50000 innocent Nagas or America annihilating two cities.
  Rajen-da

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  From: assam-bounces at assamnet.org [mailto:assam-bounces at assamnet.org] On Behalf Of umesh sharma
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 12:58 PM
To: Rajen & Ajanta Barua; umesh.sh05 at post.harvard.edu; assam at assamnet.org
Subject: Re: [Assam] Why ULFA?

  Rajen-da,

  Unless my English is completely wrong it is YOU who is sayinng that killing is ok.

  Umesh

Rajen & Ajanta Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com> wrote:
      Are you suggesting that the other killings are ok?
  Are you a supporter of killing?
  Or are you a supporter of killing selectively?
  Rajenda

    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: umesh sharma 
  To: Rajen & Ajanta Barua ; assam at assamnet.org 
  Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [Assam] Why ULFA?

  so is it ok?

  Umesh

Rajen & Ajanta Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com> wrote:
          Umesh:
  Your question actually relate to a bigger and age old question, why people kill people, especially innocent people. And it may surprise you, but you actually know the answer. Only thing, you need to think deeply:

  Let us take the case of the Mahabharata war which took place long time ago and where thousands of innocent people from all over India were killed. 
  Reason : The Pandavas wanted just Five villages.

  Let us take the case of Germany which killed millions of Jews in the second world war.
  Reason: Belief that your own kind is superior and you need to dominate the world with your people.

  Let us take the case of USA bombing and annihilating millions of innocent Japanese when they bombed Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
  Reason: To scare the enemy to hell and bring them to submission.

  Let us take the case of Iraq War where thousands of innocent people are being killed every day.
  Reason: USA to control the world key oil center and bring the middle east to their control.

  Let us take the case of Al Qaeda killing innocent people.
  Reason: To scare the enemy to hell and submit and leave middle east alone.

  ULFA killing innocent people.
  Reason: You fill up the gap.

  The world is a killing field, Umesh.

  Rajen Barua

    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: umesh sharma 
  To: assam at assamnet.org 
  Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 1:21 PM
  Subject: [Assam] Why ULFA?

  someone asked me over the phone why ULFA killing people.
  I had no concrete reply --except that for some reason they want to have a separate nation which they can rule.
  >> 
  Any further light on the issue?

  Umesh

  PS: other issues which cropped up were Bangladeshi infiltration, migration from other parts of India and lack of development -after Indian independence thanks to cut off of trade routes -by creation of East Pakistan (now Bangladesh)

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