[Assam] Peace talks with ULFA was a wrong move: Assam CM - TOI
Barua, Rajen
Rajen.Barua at amec.com
Mon Jan 29 16:03:18 EST 2007
>if the ULFA wants to kill unarmed people, it can actually do so.
Which basically means GOI is incapable of implementing Law and Order in
NE part on India. (Can you imagine this in any part of USA?)
So far as killing unarmed people, it goes for GOI too. GOI killed 50000
innocent Nagas in broad day light in front of the Indians. It is killing
unarmed people of Assam now in the name of killing ULFA.
>As an example, look at Iraq- the largest and most sophisticated army in
the world has drawn casualties and the terrorists can kill and >run
away. Now does that make the US forces a weaker force?
Now Iraq is not USA. It is a foreign country where USA is fighting. If
you compare NE to Iraq with respect to India and USA, are you suggesting
NE is not India?
>Maybe it will take a few more years for things to settle down, and for
people to ultimately take control. Till then
I am glad that you now know the Assamese people. But if you are talking
of changing the Assamese people, please take a hard look.
Some people in the net may not like the qualification, but they are what
they are, and I don't think they are going to change.
Are you suggesting, 'a few more 25-years?' Now knowing that, you should
discuss the realty of the situation.
Now GOI may nuke the NE like the Americans nuked Nagasaki and Hirosima.
And then GOI wait for some time and bring fresh Indians to populate the
NE or populate the NE with fresh Bangladeshis and then hand over the
entire NE to Bangladesh by default?.
Is that the idea behind the Nuke solution?
I am just giving you the scenarios so that we know the frustrating
realty of things so that we can discuss practical solution and not talk
in air.
Barua.
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From: Ram Sarangapani [mailto:assamrs at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:01 PM
To: Barua, Rajen
Cc: ASSAMNET
Subject: Re: [Assam] Peace talks with ULFA was a wrong move: Assam CM -
TOI
Dear Barua,
Lets look at this from a practical point of view.
>Low intensity conflict like killing 50/60 hindi speaking citizens >here
and there in broad day light?
>And the govt can do nothing?
For the ULFA to attack and kill soft target is a very easy thing to do.
It does not matter how many troops you have in Assam, if the ULFA wants
to kill unarmed people, it can actually do so.
(As an example, look at Iraq- the largest and most sophisticated army in
the world has drawn casualties and the terrorists can kill and run away.
Now does that make the US forces a weaker force?
Can the US Govt. do anything?) Yes they can - they can blow up Iraq to
smithereens - nuke it, as they say, or take the softer route)
In the case of the Indian army - it is similar. Its hands are tied. It
cannot be seen killing innocent (Assamese or Nagas in Nagaland). It HAS
to capture or kill only ULFA. So, basically, it has to run a campaign
with one hand tied behind its back. The ULFA, of course has no such
problem, today it can kill Biharis, tomorrow Assamese, and then make a
run into B'desh.
>You are talking like GOA Army (Military solution is not >possible).
I don't think there is a military solution - at least NOT with
politicians, politics, and others meddli ng.
>And the govt can do nothing?
I don't think so. Perhaps you or someone else will tell us how the Govt.
will be able to do something?
>And that is when 95% of the people of Assam donot >support ULFA? What a
terrible message from GOA!!
While 95 % may not support ULFA, (as per Assam Public Works), APW also
needs to find out what if anything this 95% is willing to do to protect
Assam from ulfa or even make sure the GOA will take steps?
There was a letter in the Sentinel (or AT) (yesterday?) - where the
author tell us something like - that the ULFA's call to boycott the
Republic Day, made sure most people stayed at home. The ULFA was
basically not even around to make sure of it dikat.
Now, you tell me, what is the problem here - ie. they are against it,
but they are not willing to do anything about it.
Maybe it will take a few more years for things to settle down, and for
people to ultimately take control. Till then
.......
--Ram
On 1/29/07, Barua, Rajen <Rajen.Barua at amec.com> wrote:
>but this low intensity conflict can go on forever
Low intensity conflict like killing 50/60 hindi speaking citizens here
and there in broad day light?
And the govt can do nothing?
You are talking like GOA Army (Military solution is not possible).
And the govt can do nothing?
And that is when 95% of the people of Assam donot support ULFA?
What a terrible message from GOA!!
Just think of it.
Barua
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From: Ram Sarangapani [mailto:assamrs at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 11:44 AM
To: Barua, Rajen
Cc: ASSAMNET
Subject: Re: [Assam] Peace talks with ULFA was a wrong move: Assam CM -
TOI
The GOA might be concerned about the security status of Assam, but the
bigger queston is whether they can do much about it?
The insurgents can easily hide amonst the innocent population, plant a
bomb or two and then vanish into the crowds. A few do get caught, but
this low intensity conflict can go on forever - unless the kingpins are
caught.
>From some reasoning, it now looks like the Govt. (GOI) is all poised for
an all out offensive against the ULFA. Myanmar (from some reports today)
is routing out anti-Indian camps. Bangaladesh is the only major sanctury
left.
Only time will tell.
--Ram
On 1/29/07, Barua, Rajen <Rajen.Barua at amec.com
<mailto:Rajen.Barua at amec.com> > wrote:
>Gogoi assured foolproof security for the National Games.
The question is whether GOA should be concerned about security of Assam
or National Games.?
I did not hear anything about security of Assam against ULFA.
Who will do that?
Rajen Barua
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From: assam-bounces at assamnet.org [mailto:
<mailto:assam-bounces at assamnet.org> assam-bounces at assamnet.org] On
Behalf Of Ram Sarangapani
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:29 AM
To: ASSAMNET
Subject: [Assam] Peace talks with ULFA was a wrong move: Assam CM - TOI
There were a number of people in the Govt. and also the Governor of
Assam, who expressed serious reservations before the talks and also
regarding the Govt. mandated lull in the fighting.
I am not sure what this tells us of a CM who seems to have realized just
now that the GOI and the GOA have been taken for a ride by ULFA.
Hopefully it is once burnt, twice shy for the CM,the GOI, and the people
of Assam and it remains to be seen if the ULFA ( and its ardent
friends) can fool the Govt. and the people once again?
--Ram
NEW DELHI: Indirect talks with the separatist group United Liberation
Front of Asom (ULFA) through the People's Consultative Group (PCG) was
an incorrect step, Assam Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi said on Monday.
"It was a wrong move by the central government to continue peace talk
with the ULFA. They got their sweet time to regroup themselves and now
they are again spreading terror," said Gogoi while addressing a press
conference on the 33rd National Games.
The Feb 9-18 National Games - being held after four years - have been a
doubtful starter after ULFA called upon the people of Assam to boycott
the games. ULFA's recent terror attacks have killed more than 80 people.
Gogoi said he was also to be blamed for the wrong step.
"I am also to be partly blamed for this process because the central
government had taken me into confidence for the talks with the ULFA," he
said.
Gogoi assured foolproof security for the National Games.
"I can assure you all that there will be foolproof security for the
National Games. It will be much bigger then the 32nd National Games that
took place in Hyderabad in 2002."
ULFA had set up the PCG, comprising of prominent Assamese citizens in
September 2005, to start negotiations with the federal government.
The peace talks broke down last September when the central government
refused to extend a ceasefire as ULFA did not give a written commitment
to hold direct talks with the former. Gogoi said nothing could be
achieved by gun and by creating terror in the minds of the people of
Assam.
He cited the example of a former separatist group Bodo Liberation Tigers
(BLT) who are now a part of his government.
"BLT was also a similar out fit like the ULFA. But we sat down with BLT
and they surrendered and also went onto fight elections. Now we have BLT
members as a part of our government."
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