[Assam] C-da legal info: NSA vs US arresting w/o warrant
Chan Mahanta
cmahanta at charter.net
Thu Jun 7 09:31:57 EDT 2007
I am glad you do.
Question however is WHAT have you learnt from what you know?
From what I see and hear in this forum, is that you learnt NOTHING.
All you ( that includes a number of you) can cite when challenged is
that the USA does that too. And because USA does that, it is quite
acceptable to you, even though you spare no efforts to denounce that?
Funny thing however, is that even though the USA does some of these
things, it has far superior checks and balances that are constantly
evolving, thanks to its intelligentsia's participation and interest
in shaping its governance, instead of citing somebody else's
examples mindlessly.
That is the difference.
At 2:24 AM -0700 6/7/07, SANDIP DUTTA wrote:
>Sondon Da,
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>Thats whats happening in Iraq as well and we all know who does it :-)
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>Rgds,
>Sandip
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>----- Original Message ----
>From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
>To: SANDIP DUTTA <pseude at yahoo.com>; umesh.sh05 at post.harvard.edu;
>assam at assamnet.org
>Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2007 3:06:28 AM
>Subject: Re: [Assam] C-da legal info: NSA vs US arresting w/o warrant
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>Hi Sandip:
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>No spinning here is necessary at all. Anyone who is even remotely
>familiar with democratic states' laws modelled after the British
>system, would know that there ARE instances where the police can
>make warrantless arrests. Even an ordinary citizen can make what is
>called a 'Citizens' Arrest', under some circumstances.
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>However that is entirely different from the Indian Govts. invoking
>National Security to squelch and
>even physically round-up political dissenters, without DUE PROCESS,
>every time. Never mind that it is the govt. itself that precipitates
>such political turmoil.
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>Umesh, Sandip etc. are probably as qualified to be Indian district
>magistrates as any. Imagine their JUDGEMENT to order the arrest of
>'potential troublemakers' , without warrants, on grounds of , among
>other labels, ' terrorism' applied to political dissent!
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>That is the truly scary part.
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>At 1:34 AM -0700 6/6/07, SANDIP DUTTA wrote:
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>>Lets hear the spin for this one :-)
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>>Rgds,
>>
>>Sandip
>>
>>----- Original Message ----
>>From: umesh sharma <jaipurschool at yahoo.com>
>>To: assam at assamnet.org
>>Sent: Monday, June 4, 2007 2:30:08 AM
>>Subject: [Assam] C-da legal info: NSA vs US arresting w/o warrant
>>
>>C-da,
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>>you mentioned that as per NAtional Security Act now Rajasthan state
>>govt can arrest without warrant -- it is legal in USA for long
>>--every high school graduate knows that -- how about you?
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>><http://www.vanwagnerwood.com/CM/Custom/arrest_without_warrant.asp>http://www.vanwagnerwood.com/CM/Custom/arrest_without_warrant.asp
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>>Under the Act, district authorities are empowered to arrest without
>>warrant those indulging in arson.
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>>Senior officers of the Army, which was called out
>><http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/jun/02rajriot9.htm>http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/jun/02rajriot9.htm
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>>Umesh Sharma
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>>Washington D.C.
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>>1-202-215-4328 [Cell]
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>>Ed.M. - International Education Policy
>>Harvard Graduate School of Education,
>>Harvard University,
>>Class of 2005
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>>http://www.uknow.gse.harvard.edu/index.html (Edu info)
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>>http://hbswk.hbs.edu/ (Management Info)
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>>www.gse.harvard.edu/iep (where the above 2 are used )
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>>http://jaipurschool.bihu.in/
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