[Assam] Fulfilling a dream?

Tue Jun 12 12:36:41 EDT 2007

Understand (Somebody assumes he knows better)that by humble submission(But you shld just raise your hand at Q'n time), by asking the proper questions( if U R Lowd @all), and through service(slaving? suppose paying Cash?,) you will be taught(If he knows!!!) this knowledge(Knowledge is for Spreading) by those who are wise, by those who have the vision of truth.(Very few of that exists!)”  

http://www.storytellingmonk.org/ref/quotes/educ.htm

Bok, Derek

"If you think education is expensive, try ignorance." Language of Fish Market this is from outgoing Harvard president - interim

Einstein, Albert 

The only thing that interferes with my learning is my(Wrong?) education.

Gandhi, Mahatma

Those who know how to think   need no teachers.(Without Teachers you do not arrive at the thinking point) 

 And by The SWAMIJI                  "Education is what brings out the divinity in man"(Is he speaking for himself?WHAT?)

Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:09:53 -0700From: jaipurschool at yahoo.comTo: assam at assamnet.orgSubject: Re: [Assam] Fulfilling a dream?umesh sharma <jaipurschool at yahoo.com> wrote: 

C-da,

I think you are taking a philosophical approach and the practical one most people take when talking to their children while planning out their careers.
If philosophy is what you want here goes: Swami Vivekanand said : "Education is what brings out the divinity in man"
Mahatma Gandhi said something similar - about realising who you are and making you prepared for the life's struggles - or something like that.

Bhagavad Gita 4:34 

“Understand that by humble submission, by asking the proper questions, and through service, you will be taught this knowledge by those who are wise, by those who have the vision of truth.” 

http://www.storytellingmonk.org/ref/quotes/educ.htm

Bok, Derek

"If you think education is expensive, try ignorance."  this is from outgoing Harvard president - interim

Einstein, Albert 

The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education.

Gandhi, Mahatma
Those who know how to think need no teachers. 

Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:

You still don't get it Umesh. Just as Ram didn't.

But I will let you all think about it. Perhaps, perhaps, someday, that Harvard degree of yours will come in handy, to figure things out.

At 7:50 AM -0700 6/11/07, umesh sharma wrote:
C-da,

Ofcourse you could have become what you are by going to the local govt engg college -- and never went to IIT without dreaming of being an IIT engineer. So also for your Stanford educated daughter - she never dreamed of being there. It all happened by chance :-)

UmeshChan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
Not that it needed any validation from you, but you just proved my point, once again, Umesh.

At 7:45 AM -0700 6/11/07, umesh sharma wrote:
C-da,

tell it to the thousands and million who dream of getting into top colleges after high school - in USA!!

UmeshChan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
Umesh's, like so many others' from India, 'dreams' are formed with the profoundly faulty notion that getting this degree or that  or getting a top ranking in exams. or even getting admitted to this or that institution, is the END, the GOAL.  Education as preparation, just the beginning, and learning as something more than mere means for a livelihood is an alien idea.

There are a number of reasons how this faulty notion took hold and has not yet been shaken loose, even amongst those who live in societies where the 'degree culture' is not pervasive.

At 5:19 PM +0530 6/11/07, mc mahant wrote:
In Shakespeare we read long time back:"Ambition must be made of sterner stuff"Keep going!!mm

Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:09:13 -0700From: jaipurschool at yahoo.comSubject: Re: [Assam] Fulfilling a dream?To: mikemahant at hotmail.com; umesh.sh05 at post.harvard.edu; assam at assamnet.org
n dreams, for thast what. I apllied for PhD two times - but I am not giving up . but have to do it part time only since I am on full time work visa.

Umesh

mc mahant <mikemahant at hotmail.com> wrote:
.ExternalClass P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} Now You need Introspection!!Dreaming of doing WHAT?mm

Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 18:39:09 -0700From: jaipurschool at yahoo.comTo: assam at assamnet.orgSubject: [Assam] Fulfilling a dream?
Hi,

I just read a letter (2 pages long -with writings on the side also) from a 69 yearold gentleman who still says (after all these years) that getting into PhD is a matter of do or die (for me). He was perhpas the only person in India who really supported my journey westwards and got me involved in fire worship (yagna) and its benefits amidst chantings - Vedas style.

He took me to Aligarh where his real brother in law led a retired life after 30 years as professor of math at Univ of California , Berkeley (who disuaded me from going to US) - he had left India to become a professor there directly (not as a student) after teaching at Aligarh Muslim Univ.  Further, this 69 year old gentleman's real unlce had come westwards as a student and become a professor at Stanford - as the Berkeley professor attested "His uncle was at Stanford and I was at Berkeley " (they are just a few miles apart).

Today I bettered my GRE score substantially (unknown to the old man) and walked back home 2 miles (unlike the last time where I was holed for two weeks in Allahabad 500 miles from home) -esp the verbal section. I did not prepare at all -since I have been tutoring these very things .

More later.

Umesh
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