[Assam] C-da legal info: NSA vs US arresting w/o warrant

Wed Jun 13 09:39:31 EDT 2007

Dear C'dA,

  Sorry for the late reply. Here are my replies. The intention of making comparisions was to make you get to the answers on your own. 

  C-DA : Question however is WHAT have you learnt from what you know

  What I have learnt is that your country can make a case for invasion and go ahead with it - never mind what the rest of the world says. So where is the question of the checks and balances???

  The question is : What have YOU learnt. Your fundas that evolve from a cozy chair vs. what the suffering humanity in Assam actually want makes it certain that you dont have any takers in this forum. Yet YOU DONT LEARN.

  Your dramatic transformation into a supporter for the "cause" has left many in this forum foxed  - especially Chitta who's question you have probably not answered.

  Have you heard of the leninist term "Useful Idiot"? It was a term invented to apply specifically to supporters of "revolutionary" causes - ones who support the "cause" and serve as a useful propaganda tool while being unaware of the organizations long term goals.

  Rgds,
  Sandip

Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
        I am glad you do.

  Question however is WHAT have you learnt from what you know?

  From what  I see and hear in this forum, is that you learnt NOTHING. All you ( that includes a number of you)  can cite when challenged is that the USA does that too.  And because USA does that, it is quite acceptable to you, even though you spare no efforts to denounce that?

  Funny thing however, is that even though the USA does some of these things, it has far superior checks and balances that are constantly evolving, thanks to its intelligentsia's participation and interest in shaping its governance, instead of  citing somebody else's examples mindlessly.

  That is the difference.

  At 2:24 AM -0700 6/7/07, SANDIP DUTTA wrote:
  Sondon Da,     Thats whats happening in Iraq as well and we all know who does it :-)     Rgds,  Sandip
  ----- Original Message ----
From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
To: SANDIP DUTTA <pseude at yahoo.com>; umesh.sh05 at post.harvard.edu; assam at assamnet.org
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2007 3:06:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] C-da legal info: NSA vs US arresting w/o warrant
  Hi Sandip:  
  No spinning here is necessary at all. Anyone who is even remotely familiar with democratic states' laws modelled after  the British system, would know that there ARE instances where the police can make warrantless arrests. Even an ordinary citizen can make what is called a 'Citizens' Arrest', under some circumstances.  
  However that is entirely different from the Indian Govts. invoking  National Security to squelch and  even physically round-up political dissenters, without DUE PROCESS, every time. Never mind that it is the govt. itself that precipitates such political turmoil.  
  Umesh, Sandip etc. are probably as qualified to be Indian district magistrates as any. Imagine their JUDGEMENT to order  the arrest of 'potential troublemakers' , without warrants, on grounds of , among other labels, ' terrorism' applied to political dissent!  
  That is the truly scary part.  
  cm  

  At 1:34 AM -0700 6/6/07, SANDIP DUTTA wrote:
  Lets hear the spin for this one :-)

   Rgds,
  Sandip
  ----- Original Message ----
From: umesh sharma <jaipurschool at yahoo.com>
To: assam at assamnet.org
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2007 2:30:08 AM
Subject: [Assam] C-da legal info: NSA vs US arresting w/o warrant
  C-da,

   you mentioned that as per NAtional Security Act now Rajasthan state govt can arrest without warrant -- it is legal in USA for long --every high school graduate knows that -- how about you?

   http://www.vanwagnerwood.com/CM/Custom/arrest_without_warrant.asp

   Under the Act, district authorities are empowered to arrest without warrant those indulging in arson.
  Senior officers of the Army, which was called out http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/jun/02rajriot9.htm

Umesh Sharma

Washington D.C.

1-202-215-4328 [Cell]

Ed.M. - International Education Policy
Harvard Graduate School of Education,
Harvard University,
Class of 2005

http://www.uknow.gse.harvard.edu/index.html (Edu info)

http://hbswk.hbs.edu/ (Management Info)

www.gse.harvard.edu/iep (where the above 2 are used )

http://jaipurschool.bihu.in/

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