[Assam] A Question for The 'Second Tier' Proponents

[Chan Mahanta]

Ram:

>Barua, thats a great question. C'da will never answer that question,

I wrote about that in great detail. Not in just one part, but 
repeated it too, just as I elucidated it, in my recent reply to 
Chitta.

Tell me which sentences you did not understand, and I will try to 
help out. But you ought not to make utterly false statements. Not 
becoming.

c-da











At 10:09 AM -0600 3/2/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>  >Why you need Sovereignty? What you cannot achieve with Autonomy 
>that you wish >will be achieved through Sovereignty?
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>Barua, thats a great question. C'da will never answer that question, 
>and quite possibly cannot. This whole thing is designed in such that 
>the proponents of sovereignty want to put the onus on the rest of 
>us. That is they come up with these outlandish ideas, and then 
>expect others to give them their raisons d' etre.  It does make 
>their jobs easier :)
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>Being in the minority, what they would like to do is
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>(a) keep this issue in the front burner (make it look as the 
>'movement' is still at full steam)
>(b) Ask questions from the rest of us - like
>  Why Assam should not be free? They are the ones who propose this, 
>and so it is their responsibility to explain to the rest the whys, 
>the wheres, and the hows. (game plan)
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>Further, at the very recesses of their minds (I suspect) - they 
>would actually go for the second tier Autonomy) - and then promptly 
>claim victory (if it comes about). The problem is they cannot and 
>will not articulate this 2nd tier goal.
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>And as far as GOI is concerned, it is NOT going to make concessions 
>for any one state. If it thinks autonomy is the way to go - it will 
>do it for all states (not just for Assam). So, basically, that too 
>is a next to impossible target.  All this probably well known to the 
>proponents, and so they hedge their bets - outright independence, or 
>autonomy, or keep at it for another 25 years.
>All these possibilities are winners for them.
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>On 3/2/07, Barua, Rajen 
><<mailto:Rajen.Barua at amec.com>Rajen.Barua at amec.com> wrote:
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>Let me answer this with another question:
>Why you need Sovereignty? What you cannot achieve with Autonomy that 
>you wish will be achieved through Sovereignty? (I think I asked this 
>question before with no answer, not that I prefer autonomy to 
>soverignty though). That too is this for Assam alone or the entire 
>NE?
>Anyhow I have given my views of Sovereignty of the NE not Assam 
>alone. In your response I see only the word Assam and not NE.
>All these questions need to be addressed.
>And note what was true in 2004 may no longer be true in 2007. The 
>pendulum is ever swinging as you know. You need to address new 
>ground realties of the day. Does ULFA in 2007 have any mileage left? 
>May be it is running on credit.
>And if in 2007, you are asking the same question that was asked in 
>2004, it seems you are not moving anywhere.
>Please hurry.
>Rajen
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>From: <mailto:assam-bounces at assamnet.org>assam-bounces at assamnet.org 
>[mailto:<mailto:assam-bounces at assamnet.org> 
>assam-bounces at assamnet.org] On Behalf Of Barua, Rajen
>Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 8:51 AM
>To: Chan Mahanta; <mailto:assam at assamnet.org> assam at assamnet.org
>Subject: Re: [Assam] A Question for The 'Second Tier' Proponents
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>  >*** Why do you want autonomy Rajen?
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>Did I say that? Please try to stick to your main point instead of 
>opening new frontiers of argument with no goal. I have given my 
>views Sovereignty issue  I have not seen you moving a single inch 
>from there yet.
>Rajen
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>From: <mailto:assam-bounces at assamnet.org>assam-bounces at assamnet.org 
>[mailto:<mailto:assam-bounces at assamnet.org> 
>assam-bounces at assamnet.org] On Behalf Of Chan Mahanta
>Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 8:33 AM
>To: <mailto:assam at assamnet.org> assam at assamnet.org
>Subject: [Assam] A Question for The 'Second Tier' Proponents
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>I am re-posting a page from assamnet debates from Dec 13, 2004, 
>where this 'second tier' thing was proposed by some of our esteemed 
>and 'pragmatic' friends.
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>So I asked the  highlighted question. But no answer ever came. It was like
>a 24000 volt live-wire--not to be touched. WHY? Because that would 
>lead to examining the issues that gave rise to the insurgency, 
>something our ever-so-righteous friends are unwilling to get near of.
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>But perhaps those like Chitta, Nayan etc. will. We will see.
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>  >Only hope is if we can, in the prsent process, make ULFA 
>overground to work for an Autonomous >Assam with the support of the 
>Assamese people.
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>*** Why do you want autonomy Rajen?
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>What is the matter with what is operating?
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>What will you do with autonomy? What would your recommendations be 
>to the people of Assam as to what they can or should do with 
>autonomy? And how much autonomy? What should this autonomy give 
>Assam that it does not have now?
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