[Assam] A Question for The 'Second Tier' Proponents

[Ram Sarangapani]

C'da

I was specifically talking about the second question:

*>What you cannot achieve with Autonomy that you wish >will be achieved
through >Sovereignty? *
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It is my fault for not making that clear. About your response to Chitta - I
did go at it again - and will have to do it once more - its that dang
language - you know - :):)
Maybe you did explain it, but did not grasp it as I ought to have..

I will give it another try and then get back to you.

--Ram






On 3/2/07, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
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> >Barua, thats a great question. C'da will never answer that question,
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> I wrote about that in great detail. Not in just one part, but repeated it
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> *>Why you need Sovereignty? What you cannot achieve with Autonomy that you
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> Barua, thats a great question. C'da will never answer that question, and
> quite possibly cannot. This whole thing is designed in such that the
> proponents of sovereignty want to put the onus on the rest of us. That is
> they come up with these outlandish ideas, and then expect others to give
> them their raisons d' etre.  It does make their jobs easier :)
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>  Why Assam should* not* be free? They are the ones who propose this, and
> so it is their responsibility to explain to the rest the whys, the wheres,
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> actually go for the second tier Autonomy) - and then promptly claim victory
> (if it comes about). The problem is they cannot and will not articulate this
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> any one state. If it thinks autonomy is the way to go - it will do it for
> all states (not just for Assam). So, basically, that too is a next
> to impossible target.  All this probably well known to the proponents, and
> so they hedge their bets - outright independence, or autonomy, or keep at it
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> On 3/2/07,* Barua, Rajen* <Rajen.Barua at amec.com> wrote:
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> Why you need Sovereignty? What you cannot achieve with Autonomy that you
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> before with no answer, not that I prefer autonomy to soverignty though).
> That too is this for Assam alone or the entire NE?
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> Anyhow I have given my views of Sovereignty of the NE not Assam alone. In
> your response I see only the word Assam and not NE.
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> All these questions need to be addressed.
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> And note what was true in 2004 may no longer be true in 2007. The pendulum
> is ever swinging as you know. You need to address new ground realties of the
> day. Does ULFA in 2007 have any mileage left? May be it is running on
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> it seems you are not moving anywhere.
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> *From:* assam-bounces at assamnet.org [mailto: assam-bounces at assamnet.org]*On Behalf Of
> * Barua, Rajen
> *Sent:* Friday, March 02, 2007 8:51 AM
> *To:* Chan Mahanta; assam at assamnet.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Assam] A Question for The 'Second Tier' Proponents
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> Did I say that? Please try to stick to your main point instead of opening
> new frontiers of argument with no goal. I have given my views Sovereignty
> issue  I have not seen you moving a single inch from there yet.
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> *From:* assam-bounces at assamnet.org [mailto: assam-bounces at assamnet.org]*On Behalf Of
> * Chan Mahanta
> *Sent:* Friday, March 02, 2007 8:33 AM
> *To:* assam at assamnet.org
> *Subject:* [Assam] A Question for The 'Second Tier' Proponents
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> I am re-posting a page from assamnet debates from Dec 13, 2004, where this
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> examining the issues that gave rise to the insurgency, something our
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> people of Assam as to what they can or should do with autonomy? And how much
> autonomy? What should this autonomy give Assam that it does not have now?*
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