[Assam] 'Second Tier' Proponents-show your Cards!

Sat Mar 3 18:48:00 EST 2007

Thats an interesting question?

  ***Do not blame others for Assam's inadequacy. I hear this "Mai-Baap" accusation frequently in the net. If two parents have twenty children, fifteen grow up to be useful citizens and five do not, whom do you blame? The children or the parents?

  I would say blame the parents. Who told them to produce so many children when they cannot take care of them properly

  Umesh

Dilip/Dil Deka <dilipdeka at yahoo.com> wrote:

  People who detest living as parasites-- better re educate yourselves--fast.To become Useful to all.
  Who are these parasites? Politicians in Assam? Businessmen? IAS officers?

  Ulfa Leaders will have to be supported by each  one in Assam.
  ULFA leaders are leaders for ULFA. Who says ULFA represents Assam? Why should "each one in Assam" support them?

  Pol Pot was not a bad man. In fact one of the best humanistic,  peoples' Brother. His 2nd/3rd/4th BROTHERS are80+ today-totally unrepentant-and boldly blames US policy in Indo-China that led them to resort to what they had to.
  I can't believe someone eulogizes Pol Pot. Where are the eulogies for Hitler and Stalin?

  "Shock and awe "- is an essential preamble for a  future  hard-at-work-for-humanity NATION.
  Now I know how you are daydreaming.

  Last 60 years wein Assam have had no challenge, no responsibility, no demand on us to prove our capabilities.India's Leadership  have not had a clue where/how to start undoing all their failures--even today!
  Do not blame others for Assam's inadequacy. I hear this "Mai-Baap" accusation frequently in the net. If two parents have twenty children, fifteen grow up to be useful citizens and five do not, whom do you blame? The children or the parents?

  We were :
  taken for granted,rightfully to be robbed,as low grade, sub human,"Not having proven track records"
  Just like  most of 1st world takes India to be.
  Just As 'Hanhor woporot xiyal roza'

   Nation with a shame or a conscience would have not grovelled to hang on to us for 27 yrs.
  There is a large section of population in Assam that does not want to secede. So "grovelling to hang on" is not an applicable accusation.

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  From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
To: "Alpana B. Sarangapani" <absarangapani at hotmail.com>, barua25 at hotmail.com, Rajen.Barua at amec.com, assam at assamnet.org, cmahanta at charter.net
Subject: Re: [Assam] A Question for The 'Second Tier' Proponents
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 10:25:14 -0600

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  You need to get your thinking cap back from wherever you left it behind  Alpana:-).

  Let us say tomorrow ULFA got sovereignty for Assam. Can ULFA govern Assam all by itself?

  Or let us assume that you bright democracy devotees figured out with your steel-trap minded analyses that -- this is it: ULFA is in charge, it will use its AK 47s to vote itself into power and Dilip's vision of Pol Pot brought to rule over Assam.

  How long do you think it could last?

  By making these kind of arguments do you think you look make yourselves look like smart people ? You have a whole lot more imagination than you make yourselves appear to be. Make use of it :-). Others look at you as Assam's best. Don't let them down.

  At 8:58 AM -0600 3/3/07, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:
  Or, what to do if it is attained. Will there be an election or is it going to be a monarchy again? well, what's the difference? It could be like - you vote for me, or else....

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    From: "Rajen & Ajanta Barua" <barua25 at hotmail.com>
To: "Barua, Rajen" <Rajen.Barua at amec.com>, <assam at assamnet.org>,"Chan Mahanta" <cmahanta at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [Assam] A Question for The 'Second Tier' Proponents
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 21:42:54 -0600

BLOCKQUOTE {padding-bottom:0px;padding-top:0px;} DL {padding-bottom:0px;padding-top:0px;} UL {padding-bottom:0px;padding-top:0px;} OL {padding-bottom:0px;padding-top:0px;} LI {padding-bottom:0px;padding-top:0px;}  You need  SECOND TIER plan, only if you don't have 'how to achieve' the FIRST TIER plan. Is that the case here? We have not seen any plan from you, how to achieve 'SOVERIGNTY' yet.  Rajen
  ----- Original Message -----  From: Chan Mahanta  To: Barua, Rajen ; assam at assamnet.org  Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 9:30 AM  Subject: Re: [Assam] A Question for The 'Second Tier' Proponents  
  I was merely responding to the SECOND TIER ideas :-)./  
  But don't be bashful. If you have some answers or help for the second tier, do propose. That will be contributing something useful.  
  c  

  At 9:50 AM -0500 3/2/07, Barua, Rajen wrote:
  >*** Why do you want autonomy Rajen?

   Did I say that? Please try to stick to your main point instead of opening new frontiers of argument with no goal. I have given my views Sovereignty issue  I have not seen you moving a single inch from there yet.
  Rajen

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    From: assam-bounces at assamnet.org [mailto:assam-bounces at assamnet.org] On Behalf Of Chan Mahanta
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 8:33 AM
To: assam at assamnet.org
Subject: [Assam] A Question for The 'Second Tier' Proponents
  I am re-posting a page from assamnet debates from Dec 13, 2004, where this 'second tier' thing was proposed by some of our esteemed and 'pragmatic' friends.

  So I asked the  highlighted question. But no answer ever came. It was like
  a 24000 volt live-wire--not to be touched. WHY? Because that would lead to examining the issues that gave rise to the insurgency, something our ever-so-righteous friends are unwilling to get near of.

  But perhaps those like Chitta, Nayan etc. will. We will see.

  >Only hope is if we can, in the prsent process, make ULFA overground to work for an Autonomous >Assam with the support of the Assamese people.

  *** Why do you want autonomy Rajen?

  What is the matter with what is operating?

  What will you do with autonomy? What would your recommendations be to the people of Assam as to what they can or should do with autonomy? And how much autonomy? What should this autonomy give Assam that it does not have now?

  cm

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