[Assam] 'Second Tier' Proponents-show your Cards!

Chan Mahanta cmahanta at charter.net
Sat Mar 3 19:11:08 EST 2007 

>Do not blame others for Assam's inadequacy. I hear this "Mai-Baap" 
>accusation >frequently in the net. If two parents have twenty 
>children, fifteen grow up to >be useful citizens and five do not, 
>whom do you blame? The children or the >parents?


**** Assam's intelligentsia's inadequacy, like the inadequacies of 
entire Indian intelligentsia is a RESULT of a 'mai-baap' Central 
Govt's colonial accumulation of all important powers of state, with 
the intent of taking care of all those 'children', like the loving 
parents they are, NEVER letting the children LEARN to take care of 
themselves; because they are so 'incapable'.

The analogy  of the fifteen growing up to be useful citizen with five 
becoming losers -- obviously because of their OWN DAMN fault as 
implied, is exactly the same kind of screwed-up logic, born out of a 
belief fostered by that same Indian mindset, that success and 
achievements are in the genes, so often expressed in this forum.

What would the progeny of a class of people whose secure lifestyles 
were guaranteed by the state for producing virtually nothing, know 
about enterprise, risk-taking, self-government or working together 
for the common good? They would not want the inexperienced, the 
youth, or the unknown take charge of things. What do they know about 
running things?

A classic example of that played out when such ELDERS challenged and 
denied a group of San Francisco based Kharkhowa youth, right here in 
St. Louis, who wanted to hold an Assamese Get-together. Their offer 
was of course rejected, on grounds of inexperience. And the result? 
They bolted from our little kharkhowa xomaaj.

Sorry, but had to say it like it is :-). No better way to illustrate 
a point than putting forth real life examples.









At 1:05 PM -0800 3/3/07, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
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>People who detest living as parasites-- better re educate 
>yourselves--fast.To become Useful to all.
>Who are these parasites? Politicians in Assam? Businessmen? IAS officers?
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>Ulfa Leaders will have to be supported by each  one in Assam.
>ULFA leaders are leaders for ULFA. Who says ULFA represents Assam? 
>Why should "each one in Assam" support them?
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>Pol Pot was not a bad man. In fact one of the best humanistic, 
> peoples' Brother. His 2nd/3rd/4th BROTHERS are80+ today-totally 
>unrepentant-and boldly blames US policy in Indo-China that led them 
>to resort to what they had to.
>I can't believe someone eulogizes Pol Pot. Where are the eulogies 
>for Hitler and Stalin?
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>"Shock and awe "- is an essential preamble for a  future 
>hard-at-work-for-humanity NATION.
>Now I know how you are daydreaming.
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>Last 60 years wein Assam have had no challenge, no responsibility, 
>no demand on us to prove our capabilities.India's Leadership  have 
>not had a clue where/how to start undoing all their failures--even 
>today!
>Do not blame others for Assam's inadequacy. I hear this "Mai-Baap" 
>accusation frequently in the net. If two parents have twenty 
>children, fifteen grow up to be useful citizens and five do not, 
>whom do you blame? The children or the parents?
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>We were :
>taken for granted,rightfully to be robbed,as low grade, sub 
>human,"Not having proven track records"
>Just like  most of 1st world takes India to be.
>Just As 'Hanhor woporot xiyal roza'
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>  Nation with a shame or a conscience would have not grovelled to 
>hang on to us for 27 yrs.
>There is a large section of population in Assam that does not want 
>to secede. So "grovelling to hang on" is not an applicable 
>accusation.
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>From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
>To: "Alpana B. Sarangapani" <absarangapani at hotmail.com>, 
>barua25 at hotmail.com, Rajen.Barua at amec.com, assam at assamnet.org, 
>cmahanta at charter.net
>Subject: Re: [Assam] A Question for The 'Second Tier' Proponents
>Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 10:25:14 -0600
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>You need to get your thinking cap back from wherever you left it 
>behind  Alpana:-).
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>Let us say tomorrow ULFA got sovereignty for Assam. Can ULFA govern 
>Assam all by itself?
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>Or let us assume that you bright democracy devotees figured out with 
>your steel-trap minded analyses that -- this is it: ULFA is in 
>charge, it will use its AK 47s to vote itself into power and Dilip's 
>vision of Pol Pot brought to rule over Assam.
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>How long do you think it could last?
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>By making these kind of arguments do you think you look make 
>yourselves look like smart people ? You have a whole lot more 
>imagination than you make yourselves appear to be. Make use of it 
>:-). Others look at you as Assam's best. Don't let them down.
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>At 8:58 AM -0600 3/3/07, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:
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>Or, what to do if it is attained. Will there be an election or is it 
>going to be a monarchy again? well, what's the difference? It could 
>be like - you vote for me, or else....
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>From: "Rajen & Ajanta Barua" <barua25 at hotmail.com>
>To: "Barua, Rajen" <Rajen.Barua at amec.com>, 
><assam at assamnet.org>,"Chan Mahanta" <cmahanta at charter.net>
>Subject: Re: [Assam] A Question for The 'Second Tier' Proponents
>Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 21:42:54 -0600
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>You need  SECOND TIER plan, only if you don't have 'how to achieve' 
>the FIRST TIER plan. Is that the case here? We have not seen any 
>plan from you, how to achieve 'SOVERIGNTY' yet.
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>Rajen
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>From: <mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>Chan Mahanta
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>To: <mailto:Rajen.Barua at amec.com>Barua, Rajen ; 
><mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
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>Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 9:30 AM
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>Subject: Re: [Assam] A Question for The 'Second Tier' Proponents
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>I was merely responding to the SECOND TIER ideas :-)./
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>But don't be bashful. If you have some answers or help for the 
>second tier, do propose. That will be contributing something useful.
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>At 9:50 AM -0500 3/2/07, Barua, Rajen wrote:
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>  >*** Why do you want autonomy Rajen?
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>Did I say that? Please try to stick to your main point instead of 
>opening new frontiers of argument with no goal. I have given my 
>views Sovereignty issue  I have not seen you moving a single inch 
>from there yet.
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>Rajen
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>From: assam-bounces at assamnet.org [mailto:assam-bounces at assamnet.org] 
>On Behalf Of Chan Mahanta
>Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 8:33 AM
>To: assam at assamnet.org
>Subject: [Assam] A Question for The 'Second Tier' Proponents
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>I am re-posting a page from assamnet debates from Dec 13, 2004, 
>where this 'second tier' thing was proposed by some of our esteemed 
>and 'pragmatic' friends.
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>So I asked the  highlighted question. But no answer ever came. It was like
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>a 24000 volt live-wire--not to be touched. WHY? Because that would 
>lead to examining the issues that gave rise to the insurgency, 
>something our ever-so-righteous friends are unwilling to get near of.
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>But perhaps those like Chitta, Nayan etc. will. We will see.
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>  >Only hope is if we can, in the prsent process, make ULFA 
>overground to work for an Autonomous >Assam with the support of the 
>Assamese people.
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>*** Why do you want autonomy Rajen?
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>What is the matter with what is operating?
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>What will you do with autonomy? What would your recommendations be 
>to the people of Assam as to what they can or should do with 
>autonomy? And how much autonomy? What should this autonomy give 
>Assam that it does not have now?
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>cm
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