[Assam] The Question of Motives

Mon Oct 1 13:18:18 CDT 2007

At 11:51 AM -0600 10/1/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>The opposite, C'da is this:
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>almost always are raised by members of that crowd who get heart-burn 
>over something she or he is unable to face up to India's PRPGRESS 
>and marching forward but cannot debunk or refute. :)

**** Nice try Again Ram. But what is missing here is something that 
ought to be obvious to all but the totally clueless: That if such 
Indian progress is challenged or pooh-poohed, it is because those are 
proffered by the Indian partisans, either overtly or covertly, as 
REASONS for Assam's continued submission to its unchecked 
exploitation abnd/or subjugation/occupation.

Is it a mystery? It seems it is, but only to those whose agenda is to 
safeguard Assam for India :-).

>True, true. And if it wasn't for this desi-dysfunction, Assam would 
>be a land >of milk & honey, manna raining from the heavens, and 
>everyone live happily ever >after .

**** Wow! What breadth and depth of analytical insights :-)! But, 
seriously Ram, is that the ONLY possible outcome of the effort under 
attack? Put your thinking cap on and give it one more shot, would 
you? You might surprise yourself with what you may run into. Trust 
me, you won't get a headache. Heart-burn, maybe. But that is expected 
:-).

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>  >What is that HIIDDEN AGENDA here?  To destroy India? Let us >be 
>grown-ups Ram :-).
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>But you do agree, if things go bad with India or to show India in 
>poor light, would be ONE MORE argument to establish that the 
>movement for an Independent Assam is a valid one, and that we are 
>not nuts after all, and but are deep-thinking, soul-searching, 
>strategic social planners :) :)
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>  >pointing out or otherwise laying-bare to desi-dysfunction  and 
>its >adverse impacts on Assam?
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>True, true. And if it wasn't for this desi-dysfunction, Assam would 
>be a land of milk & honey, manna raining from the heavens, and 
>everyone live happily ever after ..... :)
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>--Ram
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>On 10/1/07, Chan Mahanta 
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>At 8:46 AM -0600 10/1/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
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>>C'da,
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>I agree completely with these darn motives, hidden agendas, or what 
>you will. But, you, of course will agree, that the opposite is also 
>true.
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>**** WHAT opposite side Ram?
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>What is an opposite side to exploring, dissecting, pointing out or 
>otherwise laying-bare to desi-dysfunction  and its adverse impacts 
>on Assam?
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>What is that HIIDDEN AGENDA here?  To destroy India? Let us be 
>grown-ups Ram :-).
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>**** Nice try , but that attempt to make everything equally bad or 
>everyone at equal fault  does not
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>That is, that there are those who also pretend that they are 
>'looking after India's welfare', but are actually on the look out 
>for every chance to bash anything India.
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>Some of these people also seem to RELISH anything that might 
>contribute toward India's downfall. These people also tend to have 
>that "gotcha-move".
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>Oh! what a lousy world - I mean a world full of hidden agendas.
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>For some, it is putting India on a pedestal, while for others it is 
>one more step toward the possible total destruction of India.
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>But, I guess, we all have to live with it - it does take two to tango. :) :)
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>On 10/1/07, Chan Mahanta 
><<mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
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>Rajen:
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>The question of motives,  widely seen in forums where desis 
>participate, almost always are raised by members of that crowd who 
>get heart-burn over something she or he is unable to face up to his 
>Indian condition but cannot debunk or refute.  It is a particularly 
>popular gotcha-move with the crowd that also spouts 
>'so-called-secularist' ,'pseudo-secularist', 'mera-bharat-mahan' and 
>such other catch-phrases  ( you know what they really mean) and are 
>quick to call others communists when their ability to articulate a 
>position against criticisms of India's loot 
>-from-the-many-to-enrich-a-few-policies. If you visit the Outlook 
>India feedback, ToI feedback, Rediff-feedback sites you see it all 
>the time. And if you pause to ponder over the level of discourse in 
>these sites  you will want to hide if you identify as an Indian.
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>At 12:12 AM -0500 10/1/07, Rajen & Ajanta Barua wrote:
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>>Where do you live and what do you believe in life?
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>What is your mission in life?
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>Rajenda
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>From: <mailto:pseude at yahoo.com>SANDIP DUTTA
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>Subject: Re: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy
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>Dear Rajen Da,
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>Exactly what has motivated you to start this discussion? As far as 
>we are concerned, you are an NRA with American citizenship residing 
>in America. Do you seriously think these views really matter to even 
>a miniscule of the Indian ruling polity? I think the discussion on 
>maps and boundaries was settled in '47.
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>Even if India runs on the dirty word "Vote Bank Politics", its the 
>voter whose opinion matters. That is why BJP got booted out after 
>India Shining campaign. - and Mayavati got power back in UP. So are 
>you a "voter?".
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>It may also be "vote bank politics" of a slightly different nature 
>that motivated Laloo to transform IR.
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>If the intention is to make a difference, why not come back and join 
>Indian politics?
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>Incidentally, TOI is running a campaign called "Future leaders" of 
>India. A bulk of the interested people who now want to join politics 
>are highly paid professionals from South India.
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