[Assam] [WaterWatch] Urgent: PR on No irrigation benefits after spending 100 000 crores over twe

Wed Oct 10 21:04:13 CDT 2007

Dilip Thanks--that is what the English say-"Give him the long rope. He can(with the rope) either come out of the well or hang himself".Everybody should be given the Long Rope!
Let every social group create the very best with Talent ,Science,Technology  going begging and piling up every passing minute-yet nobody allowed to do one bit--because some Babu in Delhi or Dispur is not daring to sign papers because his brilliant boss like Pranab Mukheji or Bijoy Krishna Handique has not winked - who in turn are waiting for MMS to wink--who in turn is waiting for Madam to wink-- who in turn is waiting for the future boss to wink-----------.In between little blips like policemen(NSA) getting stomach problem checked in Houston!.
That's why I said "Without Oxomiya Toka-you could as well be dead"
M'da

Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:30:16 -0700From: dilipdeka at yahoo.comTo: assam at assamnet.org; waterwatch at yahoogroups.com; angikarbd at yahoo.comSubject: Re: [Assam] [WaterWatch] Urgent: PR on No irrigation benefits after spending 100 000 crores over twelve year
Mukulda,
I have one suggestion.
Let the citizens give them the proposals and suggestions. They have to address them. Use RTI. The process will keep them busy and they may understand that they have something to produce as result.
If they do not produce anything or if they produce something ridiculous, let's expose them in the media.
Dilipmc mahant <mikemahant at hotmail.com> wrote:

Serious discussions are needed-- How Else to make do- with what annual surface water can be had-and distributedequitably to all LIFE living and farming in that particular watershed.Civil Engineering  should be all about  that.NGO's/Panchayati Raj should be all about that.GIS/AgroTechnics/Dry-area farming techniques/Drought-Resistance-hybrids/GMcrops with such desireable Traits---is all about that.Must we leave it all to Delhi -based DA and TA collectors whose only handbook are airlines timetables?Get rid of these parasites-and start all over again.MM

To: WaterWatch at yahoogroups.comFrom: ht.sandrp at gmail.comDate: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 19:57:21 +0530Subject: Re: [WaterWatch] Urgent: PR on No irrigation benefits after spending 100 000 crores over twelve years

Thanks, Sreekumar, my responses to your respective questions given below in the same sequence:

1. There is some project specific information, where due to silting of dams and canals, the area irrigated by existing canals has been reducing. More importantly, there is state specific information. We have given graphs for six major states: AP, TN, Rajasthan, MP (including Chhattisgrh), J&K and Karnataka. We are collecting infomation for other states. 

2. The data in our PR shows that inspite of spending so much money, net areas irrigated by canals has been reducing. Indeed, we were, in stead to spend money in proper up keep, repair and maintenance of existing infrastructure and also in trying to reduce siltation, the benefit per investment would be much larger and without the additional social and env impacts. But I cannot off hand remember any study on those lines. 

3. The figure of 17000 crores is from a World Bank study in 2005. It does not give details. The total amount we have spent on big irrigation projects after independence is above Rs 200 000 crores. So Rs 17000 would be 8.5% of it. Considering about 17.8 m ha net canal irrigated areas at peak, it would mean about Rs 10 000/- per ha, which also includes cost of maintaining the dam infrastructure. It seems to be a reasonable figure, but there could be variation between different scales of systems/ states. 

Hope this gives some indicative answers to your question.

Himanshu 
On 10/6/07, Sreekumar N <sreekumar at prayaspune.org> wrote: 

HimanshuThis is indeed a revelation! Good that you have raised an important point. Few doubts/clarifications please.1. The area irrigated by existing canals must have been reducing, and this reduction would be more than the capacity added by new canals. Is there any info on reduction of irrigated area by existing canals? 2. Is it economical to put in money to existing canals to increase irrigation? (In power sector, renovation & modernisation is carried out on old power plants to improve efficiency, after a cost benefit assesment). Have any studies been done for canals? 3. You mention that 17,000 Cr should be spent on O&M, but only about 1700 Cr is actually being spent. Is 17,000 Cr an Ok figure for O&M? What % of the capital cost would that work out to be?Regards sreekumarprayas energy groupHimanshu Thakkar wrote:

Dear All,

I am copying below the main text of the Press Release we are issuing today, without the figures. The PDF file of the PR is also available on our website at: 
http://www.sandrp.in/irrigation/100000_crores_spent_no_irrigation_benefits_SANDRP_PR_Oct2007.pdf 
The word file of the PR (size: 1040 KB) can also be sent on request. 

We hope you will find this useful. We would be happy to get any questions, comments you may have on this. 

Thanking you,

With best wishes,
Himanshu Thakkar
-- Himanshu ThakkarSouth Asia Network on Dams, Rivers & PeopleDelhi, Indiahimanshuthakkar at iitbombay.orght.sandrp@gmail.comwww.sandrp.in __._,_.___ 
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