[Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy

Rajen & Ajanta Barua barua25 at hotmail.com
Sun Sep 30 14:43:40 CDT 2007


> You can check Ashoka's empire in any history book
> (handy reference --
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edicts_of_Asoka)  and it
> shows that Ashoka's kingdom included present day
> Karnataka, Andhra and parts of TN.

The above does not show that 

> I said:   South was Under Maurya kings (Ashoka et al)
> which was BEFORE Moghols

The above also shows that Cholas, Pandyas, Satyaputras, Kerelaputra in south were not included in Ashoka's kingdom. 
Rajenda
 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Krishnendu Chakraborty" <krish_gau at yahoo.com>
To: <assam at assamnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 2:25 PM
Subject: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy


>I thought the basis of argument was if a land mass
> which is APPROXIMATELY equal to present India. 
> 
> You can check Ashoka's empire in any history book
> (handy reference --
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edicts_of_Asoka)  and it
> shows that Ashoka's kingdom included present day
> Karnataka, Andhra and parts of TN.  
> 
> Sri Lanka -- give me a break.... we are discussing
> India .... at this level you can even bring up
> Malaysia, Indonesia what not !!
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>>I said:   South was Under Maurya kings (Ashoka et
> al)
>>>which was BEFORE Moghols
> 
>>Let us not reinvent the wheel of Indian history here.
>>, Tambapani (Sri Lanka) etc) was never
>>under Ashoka. 
>>We know because these are his neighboring countries
>>where Ashoka sent goodwill ambassadors.
>>Rajenda
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Krishnendu Chakraborty" <krish_gau at
> yahoo.com>
> To: <assam at assamnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:28 AM
> Subject: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi-
> Bengal democracy
> 
> 
> 
> Rajen-da
> 
> Seems like you are having difficulty reading .  Let me
> try to explain one last time -
> 
> You Said:  the South was never under any Indian kings
> except to some extent under the Moghols." 
> I said:   South was Under Maurya kings (Ashoka et al)
> which was BEFORE Moghols
> 
> You Said:   The pre British aggresions took place only
> in the  North West India , in  Punjab upto Delhi.
> 
> I Said:  Mughal aggression (pre British) included East
> and South India.  This is History as well as supported
> by you (your quote:  South was UNDER Moghols)
> 
> 
>>>When was India a sovereign country?
> Under Maurya.  (It is Sovereign now too).
> 
>>>What was the name of the country?
> 
> Immaterial ... there was a landmass approx equal to
> current political boundary which was ruled by Mauryas.
> 
>>>If the Indians fought back, then what seems to be
> problem?
> It gives heartburn to some people who would not have
> existed had Indians been annihilated like the Native
> Indians
> 
> 
>>>Read it again.
>>>What is the difference between what I say (red) and
> what you say (blue).
>>>I think you are confused about the meaning of the
> English words  'before' and 'under'. These are two
>>>different words with two different meanings. 
> Rajenda
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Krishnendu Chakraborty" <krish_gau at
> yahoo.com>
> To: <assam at assamnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 10:22 AM
> Subject: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi-
> Bengal democracy
> 
>> The pre British aggresions took place only in the
>> North West India , in 
>> Punjab upto Delhi.
> 
> Read your post again Rajenda.  "the South was never
> under any Indian kings except to some extent under the
> Moghols." 
> 
> (It is in fact incorrect that South never came under
> Indian king before Mughal).  History says that a large
> part of South 
> as well as East India was under Mughals during their
> peak.
> 
>> Why the Indian could not fight back?
> 
> India is a Sovereign country because they fought back
> .. unlike Native Americans who could not.
> 
> When was India a soverign country?
> What was the name of the country?
> If the Indians fought back, then what seems to be
> problem?
> 
> 
>> And the British never actually attacked India.
>> The British were just happened to be there when
>> India was falling apart-at 
>> least that is one way of looking at things.
> 
> Please re-read History.  Battle of Plassey, batle with
> Tipu ..... 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> >BTW,  had there not been numerous aggresions (by
>> >Mughal, Brits etc)  India would probably have been
>> in
>> >a much larger country
>> 
>> The pre British aggresions took place only in the
>> North West India , in 
>> Punjab upto Delhi.
>> What prevented the rest of India to stand on its
>> own?
>> I can't understand why Indians always blame its own
>> downfall on foreign 
>> aggtressions in the north.
>> Why the Indian could not fight back?
>> And the British never actually attacked India.
>> The British were just happened to be there when
>> India was falling apart-at 
>> least that is one way of looking at things.
>> Read history.
>> You must find your own answer what happened in
>> Indian history.
>> Rajenda
>> 
> 
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