[Assam] Nuisance or Nonsense

Fri Feb 1 21:15:32 CST 2008

>  This mindlessness is found when some people suggest military rule 
>as the sure cure for corruption!

*** Here the cure could very well turn out to be is worse than the disease.

At 3:07 AM +0000 2/2/08, uttam borthakur wrote:
>  >>>>India hero-worshipping and deification sometimes reaches mindless
>proportions
>
>   Yes. It sometimes exceeds the happenings in totalitarian societies 
>or groups. This mindlessness is found when some people suggest 
>military rule as the sure cure for corruption!
>
>Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
>   >If I say he was no great singer, will it be disrespect towards him?
>
>*** Not at all. It is one person's opinion. Just because I say
>something is good won't make it good automatically, unless I can
>explain, credibly, why.
>
>Similarly to the contrary.
>
>India hero-worshipping and deification sometimes reaches mindless
>proportions, even amongst the highly trained and phoren-nibaxis; a
>remnant of a mindset where appearances are good enough to be accepted
>as the real thing. I remember taking flak , right here in assamnet
>for having the audacity to question exPres Kalam's propaganda and
>unscientific touting of riverlinking, while he extolled the virtues
>of scientific thinking.
>
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>>  So, there is no harm in evaluating Late Saikia's contribution
>>towards various fields of life
>
>*** I agree. And I would like to think that those who do indeed
>contribute constructively, whether with fanfare and publicity or even
>quietly and in the background would never take offense with such
>examination.
>
>But I will also agree that it won't be a seemly thing to do to
>criticize or attack someone right after his demise, while others are
>mourning his/her passing.
>
>That is however NOT what Ranju was doing. He merely asked a question
>of those who recommended that Saikia's examples be emulated by
>Kharkhowa IAS types. And the outpouring of revulsion directed at
>Ranju for the transgression is the real sorry spectacle here.
>
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>At 4:44 PM +0000 2/1/08, uttam borthakur wrote:
>>Joining a FAN CLUB, CULT WORSHIP, DEIFICATION etc. are a matter of
>>personal choice. Someone may also try to ask others to join the
>>bandwagon, which he has gotten into. If we are not interested we may
>>look the other way. At the same time, someone may also feel free to
>>question the correctness of the statement made by a person. I think,
>>the validity of the question should be considered in the context
>>only. I have seen days in Assam where slightest dissent has not been
>>tolerated. I also believe that people may tend to evaluate the
>>contribution of a person and true evaluation is neither deification
>>nor vilification. So, there is no harm in evaluating Late Saikia's
>>contribution towards various fields of life. If I say he was no
>>great singer, will it be disrespect towards him?
>>
>>Chan Mahanta wrote: I am writing ONLY
>>because Hussein is being unfairly attacked, being
>>ganged-up on by people. He has not in any way, shape or form created
>>ANY nuisance . Nor has he in any way, shape or form, shown any
>>disrespect to the late Saikia.
>>
>>He has merely questioned WHY his examples, whatever that may be,
>>should be emulated by other Oxomiya IAS types.
>>
>>He would not have had any occasion to ask that question, had a
>>recommendation to that effect not been made by somebody and probably
>  >seconded by others. I say probably, because I am not fully
>>conversant with the origins of the issue, or what followed.
>>
>>Now CAN those who made the recommendation explain it or not? If not
>>he/she/it can just say so, UNLESS he/she/it is mired in an
>>infallibility complex and can't acknowledge his/her/its own
>>intellectual shortcoming as exemplified by this controversy.
>>
>>But if there are good answers, he/she/it can lay it down and it would
>>be the end of story and we will be better informed for it.
>>
>>None of the above has anything to do with the late Saikia, his
>>abilities, his contributions to society or humanity or IASdom .
>  >Nobody here has QUESTIONED any of that. But as far as SERVICE to
>>ASSAM is concerned, it IS a legitimate question, BECAUSE of the
>>recommendation that was made by someone in this forum.
>>
>>And citing of Nam-Ghoxa wisdoms by Manoj , lovely as it is, has NO
>>bearing on the matter. Claims of hurt feelings are attempts to
>>obfuscate , pure and simple.
>>
>>Hussein's question was not a nuisance. And his opponents are
>>indulging in nonsense.
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>>At 9:49 AM +0530 2/1/08, muktikam phukan wrote:
>>>Dear Hussain
>>  >
>>>I'd reacted earlier also & reacting again becos u r definitely
>>>creating nuisance. Pl let Mr Saikia's soul rest in peace. U r
>>>hurting a lot of people. Even enemies do not bad words after one is
>>>dead. God knows what u r upto.
>>>
>>>
>>>Muktikam Phukan
>>>Deputy Director (NR)
>>>Petroleum Conservation Research Association
>>>Sanrakshan Bhawan,10, Bhikaiji Cama Place,New Delhi 110066
>>>Ph: +91 11 26198856 Ext 385, Mob: +91 9818598565
>>>email: phukanm at pcra.org , muktikamp at yahoo.co.in
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----
>>>From: ranjuhussein
>>>To: assamonline at yahoogroups.com
>>>Sent: Wednesday, 30 January, 2008 8:39:50 AM
>>>Subject: [asom] Ashok Saikia no more
>>>
>>>Madam,
>>>
>>>With due respect, I have asked questions to Sirs with names Himendra,
>>>Santikam, Rimzim, Vavani. I think these Sirs either do not like to
>>>reply or away from emails.
>>>
>>>I have some Idea what Non-Assamese IAS do in Assam. I thought it is
>>>good idea to know what Assamese IAS do/did in Assam.
>>>
>>>Ranju Hussein
>>>
>>>--- parulma deka
>>wrote:
>>>
>>>I wish you will go after people like late Mr. Ashok Saikia when they
>>>are living and working outside Assam ! If you want to know about them
>>>and what they are doing or not doing, ask question about them. Maybe
>>>they will listen to you.
>>>
>>>--- "ranjuhussein" wrote:
>>>
>>>Vavani Sir and Himendra Sir,
>>>
>>>Sorry for being ignorant, but I do not see any cause of Assamese in
>>>this news that Assamese IAS should come forward to take up (I an
>>>trying to see what was done for Assam).
>>>
>>>So Himendra Sir, did you mean to say that Assamese IAS should come
>>>forward to work outside Assam but not inside Assam?
>>>
>>>Did he fly to Assam during any of the devastating flood just like he
>>>did to Orissa?
>>>
>>>Of course I pray for his soul like any of you!
>>>
>>>Ranju Hussein
>>>
>>>--- Vavani Sarmah wrote:
>>>http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/assamonlin e/message/ 4085
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