[Assam] Caucusing In Texas
Rajen & Ajanta Barua
barua25 at hotmail.com
Thu Mar 6 04:53:28 CST 2008
Message From a Obama Supporter:
Our projections show the most likely outcome of yesterday's elections will
be that Hillary Clinton gained 187 delegates, and we gained 183.
That's a net gain of 4 delegates out of more than 370 delegates available
from all the states that voted.
For comparison, that's less than half our net gain of 9 delegates from the
District of Columbia alone. It's also less than our net gain of 8 from
Nebraska, or 12 from Washington State. And it's considerably less than our
net gain of 33 delegates from Georgia.
The task for the Clinton campaign yesterday was clear. In order to have a
plausible path to the nomination, they needed to score huge delegate
victories and cut into our lead.
They failed.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chan Mahanta" <cmahanta at charter.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Caucusing In Texas
> >Its a mess!
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> *** That is the understatement of the day Ram :-).
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>>You are welcome C'da.
>>Amlan is correct - supposedly there was a mad rush in some precincts to be
>>the first one to grap the 'register' becomes the captain.
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>>It seems that even with all this trouble, the Dems have bigger problems
>>ahead.
>>
>>The person that can be nominated must (repeat must) have 2025 (revised to
>>2024) delegates, including the 'Super Delegates'.
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>>The problem is neither Clinton nor Obama can garner this magic number -
>>even
>>if one or the other can win all the remaining states. They will still be
>>shy
>>of the the magic number.
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>>So, what can they do?
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>>The party leaders could weigh in on one or the other candidate to give up.
>>They could impress upon the Super Delegates to switch sides (at the Dem
>>Convention). Not that easy from what I understand.
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>>Or they could have a primary in Florida & Michigan and count their
>>delegates. If they don't give either Florida/Michigan this chance and
>>dis-enfranchise the voters in these two states, there will be further
>>problems in November.
>>Many Dems in these states have said they would vote for McCain in
>>November.
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>>Both Michigan/Florida favor Clinton.
>>Obama is ahead (right now) in the delegate count, and Clinton has won the
>>big states (that matter) that the Dems must win in November.
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>>Maybe Pureto Rico (I think in June) will be the deciding factor.
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>>Its a mess!
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>>-- Ram
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>>On 3/5/08, amlan saha <a.saha at alumni.tufts.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here is another - as per the dem state election manual, in answer to
>>> the
>>> question "who conducts the caucuses?", it says that - well, the
>>> precinct
>>> captains do but if the precinct captain fails to turn up at the
>>> predesignated caucus center on time, whoever (voters) reaches there
>>> first
>>> becomes the precinct captain and takes charge.
>>>
>>> This on top of being able to vote effectively twice in the same
>>> election.
>>>
>>> I love honky tonk land :-)
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>>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
>>> wrote:
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>>> > Thanks for enlightening us yet another amazing Texan trait , Ram.
>>> >
>>> > I know weird is everywhere. But this certainly stands out :-)
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>>> > At 11:33 AM -0600 3/5/08, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>>> > >Very few people in Texas have voted in the primaries and much less
>>> in
>>> the
>>> > >Democratic primaries.
>>> > >And boy, was it an experience.
>>> > >
>>> > >For those who are not familiar with the process, Texas has, what
>>> they
>>> > call,
>>> > >a "two-step' process for the Democrats. The Republican, don't go
>>> thru
>>> > that
>>> > >process in the Primaries - its the regular 'vote your candidate'
>>> process.
>>> > >
>>> > >The first part is to vote for the particular Democratic Party
>>> candidate
>>> ,
>>> > >and a certain number of 'committed delegates' are given
>>> proportionally
>>> to
>>> > >the the candidates.
>>> > >
>>> > >The second part is what is called the "Caucus". Now, this is easier
>>> said
>>> > >than explained. But basically, from what I understand:
>>> > >After the last person in line (at 7 PM) has voted, the Caucus begin.
>>> In
>>> > the
>>> > >Caucus, people are supposed to 'influence and cajole' voters who
>>> don't
>>> > >support your candidate, form a goup and elect delegates to the
>>> > State/Central
>>> > >convention who will, in turn represent your candidate and cast their
>>> > ballots
>>> > >in his/favor.
>>> > >
>>> > >Confused? Well, so am I, and everyone I know is too.
>>> > >
>>> > >What really happened: from start to finish - it took about 5 hours.
>>> There
>>> > >were just 6 machines, 3 people to register, and a bunch of other
>>> > volunteers
>>> > >giving you wrong information from time to time.
>>> > >
>>> > >But we did get to vote, and then stood in line for caucusing (if
>>> thats
>>> a
>>> > >word). After an eternity, they basically told us to separate into
>>> lines
>>> > (one
>>> > >for Hillary and the other for Obama). The Hillary line had only a
>>> few
>>> > >people, the Obama line was long in the precinct we voted. In the
>> > > Caucusing
>>> > >part, we had to write our names/address etc on a form. Thats it.
>>> > >
>>> > >There was no 'caucusing' in the cacus. They could have just cut to
>>> the
>>> > >chase, and kept a form next to the ballot machines and people could
>>> have
>>> > >done the same thing.
>>> > >
>>> > >On the whole, it was fun, and exciting to have taken part in a
>>> process
>>> > that
>>> > >certainly seems important..
>>> > >
>>> > >Hope y'all enjoyed this.
>>> > >
>>> > >Well, that much for politics - at least as its done in Texas.
>>> > >
>>> > >--Ram
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