[Assam] Caucusing In Texas

Rajen & Ajanta Barua barua25 at hotmail.com
Thu Mar 6 06:05:52 CST 2008


you bet!
Rajen

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From: "Chan Mahanta" <cmahanta at charter.net>
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> Those of us who support Obama just have to work harder now :-)
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> At 5:23 PM -0600 3/5/08, Rajen & Ajanta Barua wrote:
>>Message From a Obama Supporter:
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>>Our projections show the most likely outcome of yesterday's elections will
>>be that Hillary Clinton gained 187 delegates, and we gained 183.
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>>That's a net gain of 4 delegates out of more than 370 delegates available
>>from all the states that voted.
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>>For comparison, that's less than half our net gain of 9 delegates from the
>>District of Columbia alone. It's also less than our net gain of 8 from
>>Nebraska, or 12 from Washington State. And it's considerably less than our
>>net gain of 33 delegates from Georgia.
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>>The task for the Clinton campaign yesterday was clear. In order to have a
>>plausible path to the nomination, they needed to score huge delegate
>>victories and cut into our lead.
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>>They failed.
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>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Chan Mahanta" <cmahanta at charter.net>
>>To: "A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world"
>><assam at assamnet.org>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:51 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Assam] Caucusing In Texas
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>>>  >Its a mess!
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>>>  *** That is the understatement of the day Ram :-).
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>>>>You are welcome C'da.
>>>>Amlan is correct - supposedly there was a mad rush in some precincts to 
>>>>be
>>>>the first one to grap the 'register' becomes the captain.
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>>>>It seems that even with all this trouble, the Dems have bigger problems
>>>>ahead.
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>>>>The person that can be nominated must (repeat must) have 2025 (revised 
>>>>to
>>>>2024) delegates, including the 'Super Delegates'.
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>>>>The problem is neither Clinton nor Obama can garner this magic number -
>>>>even
>>>>if one or the other can win all the remaining states. They will still be
>>>>shy
>>>>of the the magic number.
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>>>>So, what can they do?
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>>>>The party leaders could weigh in on one or the other candidate to give 
>>>>up.
>>>>They could impress upon the Super Delegates to switch sides (at the Dem
>>>>Convention). Not that easy from what I understand.
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>>>>Or they could have a primary in Florida & Michigan and count their
>>>>delegates. If they don't give either Florida/Michigan this chance and
>>>>dis-enfranchise the voters in these two states, there will be further
>>>>problems in November.
>>>>Many Dems in these states have said they would vote for McCain in
>>>>November.
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>>>>Both Michigan/Florida favor Clinton.
>>>>Obama is ahead (right now) in the delegate count, and Clinton has won 
>>>>the
>>>>big states (that matter) that the Dems must win in November.
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>>>>Maybe Pureto Rico (I think in June) will be the deciding factor.
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>>>>Its a mess!
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>>>>-- Ram
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>>>>On 3/5/08, amlan saha <a.saha at alumni.tufts.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Here is another - as per the dem state election manual, in answer to
>>>>>  the
>>>>>   question "who conducts the caucuses?", it says that - well, the
>>>>>  precinct
>>>>>   captains do but if the precinct captain fails to turn up at the
>>>>>   predesignated caucus center on time, whoever  (voters) reaches there
>>>>>  first
>>>>>   becomes the precinct captain and takes charge.
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>>>>>   This on top of being able to vote effectively twice in the same
>>>>>  election.
>>>>>
>>>>>   I love honky tonk land :-)
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>>>>>   On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
>>>>>   wrote:
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>>>>>   > Thanks for enlightening us yet another amazing Texan trait , Ram.
>>>>>   >
>>>>>   > I know weird is everywhere. But this certainly  stands out :-)
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>>>>>   > At 11:33 AM -0600 3/5/08, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>>>>>   > >Very few people in Texas have voted in the primaries and much 
>>>>> less
>>>>>  in
>>>>>   the
>>>>>   > >Democratic primaries.
>>>>>   > >And boy, was it an experience.
>>>>>   > >
>>>>>   > >For those who are not familiar with the process, Texas has, what
>>>>>  they
>>>>>   > call,
>>>>>   > >a "two-step' process for the Democrats. The Republican, don't go
>>>>>  thru
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>>>>>   > >process in the Primaries - its the regular 'vote your candidate'
>>>>>   process.
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>>>>>   > >The first part is to vote for the particular Democratic Party
>>>>>  candidate
>>>>>   ,
>>>>>   > >and a certain number of 'committed delegates' are given
>>>>>  proportionally
>>>>>   to
>>>>>   > >the the candidates.
>>>>>   > >
>>>>>   > >The second part is what is called the "Caucus". Now, this is 
>>>>> easier
>>>>>   said
>>>>>   > >than explained. But basically, from what I understand:
>>>>>   > >After the last person in line (at 7 PM) has voted, the Caucus 
>>>>> begin.
>>>>>  In
>>>>>   > the
>>>>>   > >Caucus, people are supposed to 'influence and cajole' voters who
>>>>>  don't
>>>>>   > >support your candidate, form a goup and elect delegates to the
>>>>>   > State/Central
>>>>>   > >convention who will, in turn represent your candidate and cast 
>>>>> their
>>>>>   > ballots
>>>>>   > >in his/favor.
>>>>>   > >
>>>>>   > >Confused? Well, so am I, and everyone I know is too.
>>>>>   > >
>>>>>   > >What really happened: from start to finish - it took about 5 
>>>>> hours.
>>>>>   There
>>>>>   > >were just 6 machines, 3 people to register, and a bunch of other
>>>>>   > volunteers
>>>>>   > >giving you wrong information from time to time.
>>>>>   > >
>>>>>   > >But we did get to vote, and then stood in line for caucusing (if
>>>>>  thats
>>>>>   a
>>>>>   > >word). After an eternity, they basically told us to separate into
>>>>>  lines
>>>>>   > (one
>>>>>   > >for Hillary and the other for Obama). The Hillary line had only a
>>>>>  few
>>>>>   > >people, the Obama line was long in the precinct we voted. In the
>>>>   > > Caucusing
>>>>>   > >part, we had to write our names/address etc on a form. Thats it.
>>>>>   > >
>>>>>   > >There was no 'caucusing' in the cacus. They could have just cut 
>>>>> to
>>>>>  the
>>>>>   > >chase, and kept a form next to the ballot machines and people 
>>>>> could
>>>>>   have
>>>>>   > >done the same thing.
>>>>>   > >
>>>>>   > >On the whole, it was fun, and exciting to have taken part in a
>>>>>  process
>>>>>   > that
>>>>>   > >certainly seems important..
>>>>>   > >
>>>>>   > >Hope y'all enjoyed this.
>>>>>   > >
>>>>>   > >Well, that much for politics - at least as its done in Texas.
>>>>>   > >
>>>>>   > >--Ram
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