[Assam] [Assam Society] Re: Spell Error in www.posoowa.org

kamal deka kjit.deka at gmail.com
Tue Jun 9 05:59:55 IST 2009 

O kokaidew,touba touba bulisu dei.Kio janene? Bulu apunalukor dore bhaxar (
language) aru dhonir ( phonetics) bixarodh ( specialist) xokol thakute gorur
daktoror ki kam baru.Nohoine?
Please don't worry about the" expense".We all should close ranks and join
our hands together to defray the expenses.After all,it's a noble cause
unlike bankrolling a terrorist outfit like the ULFA.
Mur prostab tu solibne? Ne douribo?
Bhaiti

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Rajen Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com> wrote:

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> A very expensive and ineffective proposition, I would say.
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> May be we need a Gorur Daktor
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> Joi guru Sankor.
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> Joi Ai Osom.
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> Kokaidew
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> > Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 19:11:38 -0500
> > From: kjit.deka at gmail.com
> > To: assam at assamnet.org
>  > Subject: Re: [Assam] [Assam Society] Re: Spell Error in www.posoowa.org
> >
> > Here is an easy solution to this problem.Why don't we ' export' one of
> our
> > NRA phonetic specialists to Assam to conduct a basic course on
> > transliteration to the Assamese intellectuals in order to inject a bit of
> > intellectual firepower to those " dummies " so that they can get their
> act
> > together ?!!!!!
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Rajen & Ajanta Barua <
> barua25 at hotmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > >We don't need to pay homage to Hindi or
> > > >Sanskrit or Bengali languages when we write their
> > > >Oxomiya versions, be it in Oxomiya or be it in
> > >
> > > That is exactly what is happening to the Assamese intellectuals.
> > > I am yet to find an Assamese scholar who would pronounce the word
> > > Xongkordev correctly in any National Seminar in Delhi.
> > > We will have to bend backward to please the non Assamese community.
> > > What a pity.
> > >
> > > Roman script.
> > >
> > > Rajen & Ajanta Barua
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Chan Mahanta
> > > Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 8:07 AM
> > > To: AssamSociety at yahoogroups.com ; Jugal Kalita
> > > Cc: dhrubajyotideka at hotmail.com ; utpal at tezu.ernet.in ;
> assam at assamnet.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Assam] [Assam Society] Re: Spell Error in
> www.posoowa.org
> > >
> > >
> > > At 7:48 AM -0500 6/6/09, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:
> > > >As far as I know, the whole point of writing an
> > > >Assamese word in Roman letters is so that the
> > > >Non-Assamese readers would/could pronounce the
> > > >word right.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > **** Does NOT have to be RIGHT, as long as it is CLOSE.
> > >
> > > But let us not discount or disregard how it
> > > sounds to us Oxomiya speakers either. That is
> > > why convoluted transliterations of Oxomiya words
> > > like Progyan as "Prajnan" don't make ordinary
> > > sense. We don't need to pay homage to Hindi or
> > > Sanskrit or Bengali languages when we write their
> > > Oxomiya versions, be it in Oxomiya or be it in
> > > Roman script.
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> > > >
> > > >Unless that is made possible, even "scholastic
> > > >argument" would defeat that very purpose.
> > > >
> > > >My two cents again, that literally has NO
> > > >literal value but direct and ordinary sense
> > > >(could I borrow that phrase here, C'da?) :)
> > >
> > >
> > > **** Feel. absolutely free A. I don't hold the rights to ordinary sense
> > > :-).
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> > > >To: AssamSociety at yahoogroups.com; jugalkalita at yahoo.com
> > > >CC: dhrubajyotideka at hotmail.com;
> > > >assamsociety at yahoogroups.com;
> > > >utpal at tezu.ernet.in; assam at assamnet.org
> > > >From: cmahanta at charter.net
> > > >Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 06:40:43 -0500
> > > >Subject: [Assam Society] Re: Spell Error in www.posoowa.org
> > > >
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> > > >I agree. It fits the KISS principle :-) and makes ordinary sense.
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> > > >cm
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> > > >At 12:56 PM -0500 6/5/09, Rajen Barua wrote:
> > > >
> > > >[Attachment(s) from Rajen Barua included below]
> > > >
> > > >Jugal and others;
> > > >
> > > >Without commenting on the spelling POSOOWA, I
> > > >would say that at present there are many
> > > >variations within the Assamese about standard
> > > >Romanization of the Assamese sounds. Many a
> > > >times, people confuse with sounds and letters.
> > > >The main issue is the Assamese vowel
> > > >sounds which are eight in number. If we stick to
> > > >the vowel sounds, things may be more clearer.
> > > >Sometime back I have standardised these as per
> > > >attached. So according to me the correct
> > > >Romanization of the word would be POSWA where I
> > > >use the W as Assamese WO kar. Please note we
> > > >donot always use WA at the end for the spelling
> > > >which is evident in such words as BORUA instead
> > > >of BORUWA. Thus in the spelling POSWA, W stands
> > > >for the WO kar and last A is for WA sound.
> > > >
> > > >Anyhow this is my two cents for standardisation
> > > >without trying to force anybody to use my
> > > >standardisation. BTW, at present some of us use
> > > >this W as WO kar in email.
> > > >
> > > >Please see attached article. If you donot
> > > >receive the article but would like to have,
> > > >please ask for it.
> > > >
> > > >Rajen Barua
> > > >
> > > ><mailto:rajen.barua at gmail.com>rajen.barua at gmail.com
> > > >
> > > >On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:19 AM, J Kalita
> > > ><<mailto:jugalkalita at yahoo.com>jugalkalita at yahoo.com>
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > >Hello,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Thank you for your suggestion.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I chose the first "o" in the name because the
> > > >vowel sound is not pronounced as "a" as the
> > > >second "a" in "Assam". In fact, the correct
> > > >spelling, if we want to be correct in terms of
> > > >pronunciation,, should be "aw" so that it
> > > >reflects how it's pronounced. However, I thought
> > > >that "aw" would be quite a bit of a departure
> > > >from what it should look like in terms of
> > > >orthography. I may have been wrong in this
> > > >judgement (Please see later).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I chose the "oo" in the name because the vowel
> > > >sound is not pronounced as many Hindi speaking
> > > >and other people do. I say it as "Pawsoowa" and
> > > >not "Pawsowa" as you suggest. Most Assamese
> > > >people, as far as I know, pronounce the
> > > >so-called "o-kar" as something like "oo".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I looked at various alternatives and according
> > > >to my judgement, I found "Posoowa" the best out
> > > >of possibilities such as "Pasoa" "Posoa",
> > > >"Pasowa", "Pasoowa", "Posowa", "Posoowa",
> > > >"Pawsooa", "Pawsoowa", etc., at the time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >So, I believe the correct spelling if we want to
> > > >be more truthful to pronunciation should be
> > > >"Pawsoowa". I don't think "Posowa" is correct.
> > > >If you write it as "Posowa", the first and the
> > > >second "o" should be pronounced the same; I
> > > >don't think Assamese people pronounce the two
> > > >sounds the same.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >It may be a better choice to provide a sub-title
> > > >in International Phonetic Alphabet. I know how
> > > >to specify the pronunciation correctly in IPA.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Thanks!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Jugal
> > > >
> > > >--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Dhruba Jyoti Deka
> > > ><<mailto:dhrubajyotideka at hotmail.com>dhrubajyotideka at hotmail.com>
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >From: Dhruba Jyoti Deka
> > > ><<mailto:dhrubajyotideka at hotmail.com>dhrubajyotideka at hotmail.com>
> > > >Subject: Spell Error in <http://www.posoowa.org/>www.posoowa.org
> > > >To: <mailto:jugalkalita at yahoo.com>jugalkalita at yahoo.com
> > > >Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 5:52 AM
> > > >
> > > >To,
> > > >
> > > >Dr Jugal Kalita
> > > >The Editor in Chief
> > > >Posowa
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Dear Sir,
> > > >
> > > >With due request, I want to place an appeal
> > > >before you that we are very uncomfortable with
> > > >the spell of POSOOWA. According to the Assamese
> > > >pronouncation it should be POSOWA. As you have
> > > >placed the O-kar in "S" (by pronoucation it
> > > >should be Chh, but Assamese grammer &
> > > >pronouncation differs from other languages) in
> > > >the Assamese name of the magazine and the web
> > > >issue, by pronoucation it sounds like you have
> > > >placed OO-kar in the very "S".
> > > >
> > > >So, kindly remove one un-necessary "O" from the
> > > >english name POSOOWA, as it sounds very strange
> > > >in Assamese-to-English pronouncation.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >...
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