[Assam] Indian Bangladeshi
kjit.deka at gmail.com
Wed Aug 4 05:27:24 IST 2010
>>>>The US policy is dictated by economic needs of the country, and how many of
a particular country the US wants to have, and the politics of the day.<<<<
An immigration policy simply implies that some people are unwanted.
Which country operates a visa regime or an
immigration policy that is "non-discriminatory"? Every country,
including India, sets its own yardstick of "desirable" and
"undesirable" aliens. These definitions are in turn dictated by
political and economic logic.
Different countries have adopted innovative schemes to check illegal
immigration. At its root is the principle that no country is obliged
to allow the free import of the consequences of political instability
and economic distress. Deciding which non-citizen is allowed into a
country and for how long is a sovereign right.One would be churlish to
question it. As a net importer of the unwanted, we should instead
learn lessons from the Americans.
With respect to illegal aliens in Malaysia,I would like to refer to a
book titled " Paper Citizens",written by a Professor of Political
Science at the University of California.The book contains a chapter
dedicated to the problem of illegal aliens,mostly Filipinos,in that
country.The book also deals extensively with the problem of illegal
immigrants in Assam.One should really buy that book in order to have a
solid grasp of the problem,vis-a-vis illegal aliens.
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Ram Sarangapani <assamrs at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, I thought it might be a perfect opportunity to point out how Indians
> are breaking all doors to get into Malaysia and by extension, I thought the
> comparison to the B'dehsis in our backyard was apples to oranges.
>>I have also changed my life to discrete as in digital, and not continuous
> as in analogue.
> Hehehe! I'm glad there is at least one other person who is able to
> compartmentalize :-) It's a good art, and can come in handy.
>>And the WASPs could go to Americas without visa (the absence of law of
> immigration is not illegal I suppose) to the abode of the American >Indians
> so as to decimate the latter, whereas you had to go legally.
> There is some misunderstanding here.
> 1. the US DOES NOT willing (knowingly) admit anyone by breaking its own
> immigration laws (since it started to impose immigration laws)
> 2. It may admit certain races, citizens of certain countries more than it
> does others, but all are processed, and have to be legal.
> 3. There have been 2 recent instances when 'illegal' immigrants already in
> the US have been granted Amnesty or processed through guest worker programs.
> In both instances, there were laws passed and a process defined.
> 4. There is NO absence of immigration laws or rules. That is by law no one
> can make an arbitrary decision to let any person into the country after
> knowing they are entering the country illegally - it does not matter even if
> are WASPS.
> 5. EU citizens (and some others) can enter the US with a VOA (Visa upon
> arrival), just like any American national can into Europe (this has nothing
> to do if one is a WASP or not).
> But having said all that, the US does apply different immigration policies
> applicable to different countries. Citizens of India, Pakistan, are for
> example given less favor (policy wise) than say, those coming in from
> Mexico. Also refugees (from Nepal, Tibet, and even Bhutan) are given special
> preference as also refugees from other places (China, Vietnam, or N. Korea
> for example).
> The US policy is dictated by economic needs of the country, and how many of
> a particular country the US wants to have, and the politics of the day.
> Most immigrants to the US, legal and illegal are from Mexico, and Latin
> American countries. The next group is probably, Chinese, Indians, Pakistanis
> More later,
> Got to run
> -- Ram da
> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:09 AM, uttam borthakur <uttamborthakur at yahoo.co.in
>> Ram Da is attributing so many motives on my part. But Ram Da, the world has
>> changed in between. After post-modernism, I have also changed my life to
>> discrete as in digital, and not continuous as in analogue. So, my subsequent
>> action cannot be predicted from preceding action, thereby leaving no room
>> for 'root cause'. I was just fascinated with the news item when I had a
>> sudden impulse to send it. That's it. It has nothing to do with the
>> universally accepted history of human migration for which we turned up in
>> Assam instead of Africa though Eve was supposed to be in a garden of Africa.
>> And the WASPs could go to Americas without visa (the absence of law of
>> immigration is not illegal I suppose) to the abode of the American Indians
>> so as to decimate the latter, whereas you had to go legally. Why are the
>> British called colonizers in India; and Bangladeshis illegal migrants? There
>> should not be any root cause in the definition.
>> I simply thought the news was funny:-)
>> Chan Mahanta cmahanta at gmail.com
>> Tue Aug 3 21:06:58 IST 2010
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>> >Not my words, but your interpretation. And you may be right.
>> **** Would you therefore agree Ram, that those who do recognize other's
>> ought not to deny it to the poor, the unfortunate, the disenfranchised or
>> the destitute
>> with words, phrases, labels and 'gaalis' and attempt to deal with the
>> problem humanely, even
>> if they don't have the power to do anything more than merely point out the
>> issues and participate
>> in the dialog in a manner that behooves the fair and the enlightened?
>> For if they don't, who will?
>> I am sure you agree with the lyrics: " Manuhe' manuhor baabe'-----bhaabibo
>> kwnenw kwa".
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