[Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI
Chan Mahanta
cmahanta at gmail.com
Mon Aug 16 05:22:41 IST 2010
So be it. But does that change the picture?
On Aug 15, 2010, at 5:31 PM, Dilip Deka wrote:
> I smell eliticism and condescension in your email - towards the MPs and the
> people of Assam..
> Think a little, Autonomy is not for you and me. It is for the benefit of those
> who feel cheated and powerless in India.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com>
> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world
> <assam at assamnet.org>
> Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 3:52:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI
>
> Let us say the entire lot of, what, ten MPs from Assam went and raised a hue and
> cry wanting autonomy. If someone asks them WHY they want autonomy, what would
> they say? If some like YOU could not, or would not articulate it, candidly, you
> havingNO personal motives involved, can you imagine this crew will be able to go
> say they want autonomy because the Indian system is broken, and that they want
> autonomy to reform and reorganize the system to fit their own needs, to be
> responsive, to be accountable, to be progressive ?
>
> And if they would want to, would they have the wherewithal to articulate a
> response?
>
> By asking a question like this, are you not displaying your own unwillingness to
> recognize the realities and deal with them with a view to obtaining results?
>
>
> On Aug 15, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Dilip Deka wrote:
>
>> All MPs from Assam do not belong to the same party. The same applies to the
>> other states that I was talking about.
>> Are you saying there is not a single parliamentarian who wants to bring up
>> Autonomy? Even if interested parties pay him/them? :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com>
>> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world
>> <assam at assamnet.org>
>> Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 1:53:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI
>>
>> Why would the Assam MPs want a radical change in doing business? Why would the
>
>> Congress MPs even think of it,
>>
>> nijor xandooh khowa baali tololoi nibole'?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Dilip Deka wrote:
>>
>>> Dear A.E.,
>>> Why only Assam MPs? I heard that several other states would like to have
>>> autonomy as well. Why wouldn't they join the Assam MPs?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Dhruba Jyoti Deka <dhrubajyotideka at hotmail.com>
>>> To: assamnet org <assam at assamnet.org>; Chandan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 1:34:14 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI
>>>
>>>
>>> Either Arms power or Third Country help.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As Assam has limited seats in Parliament, the MP voice willn't work. This
>>> should
>>>
>>> be notebale.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: cmahanta at gmail.com
>>>> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:30:58 -0500
>>>> To: assam at assamnet.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI
>>>>
>>>> **** All you need to do is share YOUR notion of what the problems Assam has and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HOW your concept of that AUTONOMY may help.
>>>>
>>>> That simple.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 15, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> " Now then, how would one know what YOUR concept of AUTONOMY comes with, if
>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>>> when it does? And how could
>>>>> I or a SOVEREIGNTY partisan or anyone else could weigh, evaluate, the worth
>
>>>> of
>>>>
>>>>> os such autonomy UNLESS
>>>>> you explain, clearly and unambiguously , what YOUR concept of the PROBLEMS
>>>> are,
>>>>
>>>>> for which your idea of
>>>>> autonomy is going to be of any use or would be yet another piece of Indian
>>>>> make-believe, appearances-sake,
>>>>>
>>>>> deception ( note The Day of Deception mourning reported by Uttam this
>>>> morning) ?
>>>>> Again, the Devil is in the details."
>>>>> ---- This Autonomy thing has to be defined by the people who want it. It is
>
>>>>> not for outsiders to prescribe it.
>>>>> If you haven't, also see my email to Kamal today on a similar subject. The
>>>> govt.
>>>>
>>>>> definitely is not the one to define Autonomy.
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree the devil is in the details. But to get to the details, one has to
>>>> talk
>>>>
>>>>> about the concept first. I feel strongly that the concept
>>>>> must be brought to the parliament by the hens in stead of fearing the fox.
>>>>> Where is the hound to keep the fox away?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world
>>>>> <assam at assamnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sun, August 15, 2010 8:55:21 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 14, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "AUTONOMY, is the way for such redemption for some. And a true and
>>>> meaningful
>>>>
>>>>>> FEDERAL arrangement
>>>>>> could be for others.
>>>>>> That is the bottom line."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ++++ I agree with your bottom line and I have been saying the same thing in
>>
>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> net for a long time.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> **** Isn't it sad, nobody seems to care :-)? But, *I* try to give credit
>>>> where
>>>>
>>>>> credit is due'
>>>>> when I can.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Now we can breathe easier, SOVEREIGNTY is not your slogan
>>>>>> anymore. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> **** I thought I could slip my 'about-face', as some of our charitable
>>>> friends
>>>>
>>>>> might characterize it,
>>>>> on the subject. But you steel-trap minded, kharkhowas caught me red-handed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Iinasmuch as I wish not to drive terror into the hearts of my fellow men with
>>>
>>>
>>>> my
>>>>
>>>>> SLOGANS or incitements
>>>>>
>>>>> or incendiary rhetoric or even undisguised calls for armed rebellion, here
>>>> you
>>>>
>>>>> are, unfortunately, reading more
>>>>> than you should be.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> **** WHY?
>>>>>
>>>>> For a very simple reason. All of you far-sighted ones who have waved around
>
>>>>> 'AUTONOMY' in this forum
>>>>> as A or THE solution for Assam, never, even with repeated challenges from
>>>> yours
>>>>
>>>>> truly, would come out
>>>>> and tell us WHAT the PROBLEM is, in your view, for which you proffer AUTONOMY
>>>
>>>
>>>> as
>>>>
>>>>> the solution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why does that matter?
>>>>>
>>>>> As I explained a number of times before, it matters immensely, because WHAT
>
>>>> IF
>>>>
>>>>> this amazing AUTONOMY
>>>>>
>>>>> solution of your desires, does NOT include what it must , to deal with
>>>> Assam's
>>>>
>>>>> PROBLEMS ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then what?
>>>>>
>>>>> Now then, how would one know what YOUR concept of AUTONOMY comes with, if or
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>> when it does? And how could
>>>>> I or a SOVEREIGNTY partisan or anyone else could weigh, evaluate, the worth
>
>>>> of
>>>>
>>>>> os such autonomy UNLESS
>>>>> you explain, clearly and unambiguously , what YOUR concept of the PROBLEMS
>>>> are,
>>>>
>>>>> for which your idea of
>>>>> autonomy is going to be of any use or would be yet another piece of Indian
>>>>> make-believe, appearances-sake,
>>>>>
>>>>> deception ( note The Day of Deception mourning reported by Uttam this
>>>> morning) ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, the Devil is in the details.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I totally support if some parliamentarians make the demand for incorporation
>>>
>>>
>>>> of
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Autonomy into the Indian constitution. Is there someone who will risk
> that?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> **** That is akin to asking the proverbial fox, if he should be the right one
>>>
>>>
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>> guard the
>>>>> hen-house, wouldn't it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone from Assam or J&K to make some noise in Loksabha? If it fails first
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>>> time, try another time, then another .............? As far as I know no one
>>
>>
>>>> has
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> tried it yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> **** Since the fox will never disqualify himself from hen-house guarding
>>>> duties,
>>>>
>>>>> should the wise-ones who
>>>>>
>>>>> have taken upon themselves to be keepers and masters of the restive
>>>> populations
>>>>
>>>>> , with the fox as their proxy,
>>>>> not propose it themselves, instead of continuing to conduct the world's
>>>> longest
>>>>
>>>>> running low-intensity warfare on its
>>>>> own population ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Does it give you any clues? Should it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world
>>>>>> <assam at assamnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 11:38:21 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Assam] I Loved This One---from ToI
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I completely agree. But you aren't trying to paint with a broad brush are
>>>>>>> you ? :-).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **** It is not a broad-brushing based on small or isolated examples. It is
>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> NORM, the
>>>>>> prevailing condition. Do you disagree?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In fact, when people demand a correction
>>>>>>> (as in CWG, or Hemanta Sarma) - things often fall in line. Such
>>>>>>> participation is paramount for a healthy democracy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *** So, is it something NEW? That has not been tried or done before?
>>>>>> But what has changed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Participation YES, but that is an all encompassing truism. Like the truth
>>>> shall
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> prevail.
>>>>>> Or honesty is the best policy. Question is HOW, WHEn, WHO? The Devil here is
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the details.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is OBVIOUS is that India does not have, it cannot muster the POLITICAL
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> to CHANGE things. It cannot if it tried. It is TOO fRACTURED, it is TOO
>>>>>> disparate.
>>>>>> It tries the one size fits all approach, and gets nowhere. It will get
>>>>> nowhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is why it is paramount that the disparate peoples organize into smaller
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> entities and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> devise ways to manage their destinies , to be RESPONSIVE to their unique
>>>> needs,
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WITHOUT
>>>>>> being held to ransom by far-flung forces that have NO DESIRE or ABILITY to
>
>>>> deal
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> with THEIR
>>>>>> specific needs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AUTONOMY, is the way for such redemption for some. And a true and meaningful
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> FEDERAL arrangement
>>>>>> could be for others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is the bottom line.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 14, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> C'da,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What you always seem to miss, is this problem of ENFORCEMENT, of
>>>>>>> investigating, adjudicating
>>>>>>>> and punishing the corrupt, of punishing bad behavior and rewarding the
>>>>>>> good.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, I didn't miss it, just thought it is a given.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just enforcement too is not enough - the court systems are over burdened,
>>>>>>> and so are the good cops.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Generations of Indian now have not seen anything different. Many think
>>>> that
>>>>>>> is how it IS, others think
>>>>>>>> "they are like that only", yet others who know that it ought not be so,
>>>> but
>>>>>>> have no faith at all that things
>>>>>>>> could ever be changed. Also, generations of Indians have grown up
>>> thinking
>>>>>>> and believing that
>>>>>>>> they have democracy, the best, and things will take care of itself after
>>>>>>> they performed the
>>>>>>>> rituals of elekshuns.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I completely agree. But you aren't trying to paint with a broad brush are
>>>>>>> you ? :-). In fact, when people demand a correction
>>>>>>> (as in CWG, or Hemanta Sarma) - things often fall in line. Such
>>>>>>> participation is paramount for a healthy democracy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Ram
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What you always seem to miss, is this problem of ENFORCEMENT, of
>>>>>>>> investigating, adjudicating
>>>>>>>> and punishing the corrupt, of punishing bad behavior and rewarding the
>>>>>>>> good.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Generations of Indian now have not seen anything different. Many think
>>>> that
>>>>>>>> is how it IS, others think
>>>>>>>> "they are like that only", yet others who know that it ought not be so,
>>>> but
>>>>>>>> have no faith at all that things
>>>>>>>> could ever be changed. Also, generations of Indians have grown up
>>> thinking
>>>>>>>> and believing that
>>>>>>>> they have democracy, the best, and things will take care of itself after
>>>>>>>> they performed the
>>>>>>>> rituals of elekshuns. When it does not, they whine and moan. But they
>>> also
>>>>>>>> need to LIVE, make a living.
>>>>>>>> And they know ALL too well, that it is only ONE life to live.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So what is your magic bullet for fixing thins. Is there ant y?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or could it be that a whole slew of things have to be done, over time,
> to
>>>>>>>> turn things around.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And WHO will do that? WHEN? Has it started. Will it ever?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If it has not even started, how could it be started? If it has, where,
>>>>>>>> what, how?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 14, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> C'da,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for fwding this. Really good - just loved it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Only one complaint: Tiwari shoud have addressed it to the WORST of
> them
>>>>>>>>> all, not ALL of India. Ain't right to paint everyone with the same
>>> brush.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But let's look at it from Tiwari's angle: Everywhere he looks, there is
>>>>>>>>> corruption - it's only a matter of degrees. While one might argue that
> a
>>>>>>>>> whole set of corrupt leaders are leading (and forcing) an easily
>>>>>>>> corruptible
>>>>>>>>> mass, such that corruption has become a way of life, and no longer an
>>>>>>>>> exception, but the rule - it must only be the fault of these
> leaders....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It does take two to tango.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In the end, it all boils down to : do you pay Rs. 500 extra, and catch
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> flight back to the US, or do you stand your ground, and hold on to
> those
>>>>>>>>> ideals, and maybe miss that flight.
>>>>>>>>> I would catch that flight :-),
>>>>>>>>> and still use the broad brush & blame all - bribers, and the bribees
> :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --Ram
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I loved this one. Only one complaint: Tiwari shoud have addressed it
> to
>>>>>>>>>> the WORST of them all, not ALL of India. Ain't right to paint everyone
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> the same brush.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cm :-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/bugs-eye-view/entry/mr-kalmadi-s-fake-statement
>>>> t
>>>> t
>>>>
>>>>>>>> t
>>>>>>>> t
>>>>>>>>>> Mr Kalmadi's (fake) statementAlok Tiwari, 14 August 2010, 02:53 PM IST
>>>>>>>>>> Last night I dreamt I was appointed the speechwriter and propagandist
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> Commonwealth Games Organising Committee chief Suresh Kalmadi. The
>>>>>>>>>> appointment happened through a dubious process the details of which I
>>>>>>>> shall
>>>>>>>>>> not bore you with. It was for an obscene amount of money paid into my
>>>>>>>>>> numbered Swiss bank account. As one of my first assignments, I wrote
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> following statement for Mr Kalmadi:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My fellow citizens,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Over the last few weeks, I have read and watched a series of reports
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> corruption in the organizing of Commonwealth Games. It has pained me
> no
>>>>>>>> end.
>>>>>>>>>> Some of those things I have tried to explain but what has shocked me
> is
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> demand for my exit. Each day there is a new disclosure and the chorus
>>>>>>>> begins
>>>>>>>>>> again. Therefore, I decided to confront the question head on.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, corruption has taken place in holding of the games. Trails of
>>> quite
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> few scandals lead right up to my door. So I will not deny it. But what
>>>>>>>> is so
>>>>>>>>>> surprising about it? What did I do that had not been done before? To
>>> see
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> outpourings of outrage everywhere, it would appear Indians are seeing
>>>>>>>>>> corruption happen for the first time. Come on, let us shed that garb
> of
>>>>>>>>>> innocence.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please come with me to the collectorate of any of our nearly 450
>>>>>>>> districts.
>>>>>>>>>> Each one presided over by an IAS officer, the best and the brightest
>>>>>>>> among
>>>>>>>>>> us. Here you find people in their thousands waiting for such
>>> commonplace
>>>>>>>>>> things as domicile and caste certificates. There are contractors
>>> waiting
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> permits to mine materials such as boulders and gravel. My contractor
>>>>>>>> friend
>>>>>>>>>> tells me it takes 18 approvals to get one permit. Please try to get
>>> just
>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>> of them without giving a bribe or using a big name. The same goes for
>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>>>> certificate.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I could take you to the secretariat of each of our 30-odd states. Or
> to
>>>>>>>>>> ministries in New Delhi where even bigger deals are made. The story
>>> will
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> repeated on a progressively larger scale. Let us travel to any of the
>>>>>>>> RTO
>>>>>>>>>> offices. I dare you to have a vehicle registered or transferred, or
>>> just
>>>>>>>> pay
>>>>>>>>>> your tax without going through a tout or paying someone. Why, most of
>>> us
>>>>>>>>>> have driving licences. I ask each one of you to keep your hand on your
>>>>>>>> heart
>>>>>>>>>> and ask whether you got it by honestly appearing for a test or gave a
>>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>>>>> fee to someone to get it for you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I also want you remember the last time you were booked for jumping a
>>>>>>>>>> traffic signal or wrongly parking your car. Did you quietly pay your
>>>>>>>> fine or
>>>>>>>>>> tried to settle the matter with the cop for a lower amount? Please get
>>>>>>>> me a
>>>>>>>>>> birth certificate from your local municipal office in a
> straightforward
>>>>>>>>>> manner. I could say the same about courts but for the risk of being
>>>>>>>> hauled
>>>>>>>>>> up for contempt. I shall still suggest that you spend a day in the
>>> court
>>>>>>>>>> complex of any district and check out the exemplary honesty and
>>>>>>>> integrity
>>>>>>>>>> with which everybody from peon to lawyers to judges work there. Let us
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>> go to a PWD or an irrigation department office of your choice and try
>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> find a road or a dam built with complete honesty. I could go on. But
>>> you
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>> the drift, right?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Somebody has thrown a CAG report on my face. Poor CAG has been writing
>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>>>> reports by the dozens about every department of every government at
>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>>>> level. I am yet to discover their utility other than providing
>>>>>>>> particularly
>>>>>>>>>> untalented reporters a means to live another day. The toilet paper in
>>> my
>>>>>>>>>> bathroom finds better use than those reports. It is the same with CVC.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And, ah, the media… How can I forget my friends there? Please ask them
>>>>>>>>>> about the increasingly blurred line between advertising and
> commercials
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>> that readers do not know what is paid for and what is not. What
>>>>>>>> editorial
>>>>>>>>>> integrity do we see when interviews and features on movies appear
>>>>>>>> sweetly
>>>>>>>>>> timed with their release? We had the scandal of paid political news
>>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>>>> elections. I am yet to see an editor or an owner hauled over the coals
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> that or being asked to demit office.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, my compatriots, it is not corruption in CWG that bothers you. If
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> were the case, you would have lynched every district collector and
>>> every
>>>>>>>> RTO
>>>>>>>>>> in the country by now. You have long made peace with corruption. You
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> become part of it when you could. It is brazenness and scale of my
>>>>>>>>>> corruption that concerns you. That is the novelty element. If my team
>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>> kept itself limited to taking 10 or 20 per cent cut, you would be
>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>>>> the other way. The media would find it boring to report that. What
>>>>>>>> shocks
>>>>>>>>>> you is that I paid Rs 9 lakh for hiring a treadmill that could be had
>>>>>>>> for Rs
>>>>>>>>>> 45,000. If I had done the deal at Rs 50,000 you would be OK with it.
>>> You
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>> not mind people crossing the line. You mind them crossing it too
>>> openly.
>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>>> you forget, friends, that once you allow crossing of lines you cannot
>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>> the rules for it. Also, I have only raised the bar here. Citius,
>>> Altius,
>>>>>>>>>> Fortius. Isn't that what having games is all about? Give me credit for
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> least that (though I'd prefer cash!).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> With all sincerity (or what is left of it amongst us),
>>>>>>>>>> Suresh Kalmadi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now, if only I could get Mr Kalmadi to sign it…
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